Fall seeding alfalfa
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Topic: Fall seeding alfalfa
Posted By: Curt IA
Subject: Fall seeding alfalfa
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:37pm
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Has anybody ever fall seeded alfalfa, I rreplanted my alfalfa field last year it did not take. I am going to reseed this Saturday we'll see how fall seeding does. located in central Iowa.
Curt
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:41pm
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I just seeded some yesterday. It's the first time I planted late summer alfalfa. We'll see if it survives the Minnesota winter. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: Dale H. ECIL
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:42pm
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For some reason you CAN NOT reseed alfalfa, You have to plow it up and plant either corn or beans one year, then you can seed back to alfalfa.
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Posted By: Curt IA
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:55pm
| I burnt off the old alfalfa with round-up. |
Posted By: joshjohndeere
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 10:07pm
| i would have tried reseeding it with a no till drill u can reseed if u do it before u take the first crop off the newly planted alfalfa. we have done it before with decent success. as far as replanting it now go ahead if u plant it now hopefully it will grow tall anough before it frosts and you will be ok. the theory of not being able to replant alfalfa into existing alfalfa is mostly true unless u do as i described earlier. |
Posted By: joshjohndeere
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 10:21pm
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oh and by the way if u plant a crop in the field after u break up the alfalfa u dont have to stick to corn or beans, to continue our forage production we plant sudan grass, or sudex, or triticaly ( i think thats how u spell it ) that way we still have or continuing forage source and still have feed for our cattle herd. oh and by the way if u dont think im very credible dad and i hay roughly 1200 acres of brome and prairie, and 1400 acres of alfalfaif if im not working at john deere or on my allis's im putting up hay...lol
i hope this helps.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 10:29pm
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I think killing the alfalfa by tilling or chemicals lets the alfalfa release toxins that won't let new seeds sprout. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 7:14am
| Google alfalfa autotoxicity |
Posted By: John (C-IL)
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 7:40am
It's called aleopathy and new seeding into an established stand will not work. If the previous stand did not work you will probably be okay. If failure means less than 30% you will probably be okay, but skipping a seeding cycle would be the best. I've seen it go both ways, but if you are serious about getting a good stand established it probably isn't worth the risk of missing another cycle.
Here are a few pictures of seeding our Dairyland Alfalfa seed variety plot.
http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l337/JohnCIL/Alfalfa%20Seeding/ - http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l337/JohnCIL/Alfalfa%20Seeding/
I had to throw in a tractor picture of me rolling in the seed.
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BrettPhillips wrote:Posted By: Curt IA
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 8:36am
| I planted beans in 2008, seeded alfalfa/oats in 2009. A little alfalfa came up don't know what happened but had very little alfalfa this year. Sprayed it with round-up on 8/18/10 will replant alfalfa/orchard grass Saturday |
Posted By: Russ-neia
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 9:17am
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It would have been better to have it in the ground before the 10th. You're in a tight window now, hoping for rain to germinate, then grow enough before it freezes. ------------- The innovators offer what others will imitate. |
Posted By: Mike NEIN
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 10:31am
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I've always had better luck seeding in the fall rather than spring. If it don't rain then all you are making is weeds all summer long. The best stand I've got was drilled on October 1, inner seeded with wheat. (Everybody told me it wouldn't work.) |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 11:22am
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Our stand planted last fall didn't do squat this year, but we did get some nice weeds out of it :( ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: norm [ind]
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 8:18pm
| good to put in some turnip seed wih the alfalfa dam they are good an sweet they like the alfly seed |
Posted By: Curt IA
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 10:00pm
| Alfalfa was seeded Saturday, I hope I can show some pictures of a green field in a couple weeks, and lots of alfalfa hay next spring |