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Topic: Fox Chopper
Posted By: Fairlady
Subject: Fox Chopper
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 10:02am
Can I ask a question here on a FOX Chopper that has a hay head and a 3 row cornhead?  Wanting to know where I can inquire on value? 

UPDATE
 
I have more pics and info on the Fox chopper.  I enjoyed reading your comments and how it brought back memories.  I also have a hay head for chopper and the 3 row cornhead attached.  
In Iowa I think someone suggested maybe worth $1800 or any other thoughts on price?  I am going to be selling it.  Thanks!!!



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Posted By: Dave76
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 7:00pm
I seen a picture of your Fox chopper on another forum, it looks like it is in real good condition and kind of cute but I have no idea of it’s value. Try and find someone who wants it and negotiate from there. Good Luck.


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 7:08pm
Pictures?


Posted By: Fairlady
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 7:48pm
I currently just have one pic and it is and old one.  I hope to get more pics by weekend and serial # and info.  Thanks.  I will post the pic now.


Posted By: Fairlady
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 7:49pm
Ok. I'm trying to find someone, but don't know where to start.  Thanks!


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 8:51pm
Wow, that picture brings back the strongest memory. That is an spf ( as kids we joked that meant send parts fast). Flat head continental motor that would go through gas like it was nobodies business. Dad bought one used 50 years ago right after I went to college. I remember coming home at fall break and that was there and dad had put in a glass pipeline. Mom joked it was two milkings of dad having to carry the milk before he called about the pipeline I had been nagging him about all summer. Hard to believe all that is gone and home is now a New Jersey subdivision.


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 8:58pm
The fox chopper. My dad bought a pull behind one for filling silo. He had more problems than he wanted with it. Just always had some issues with knives. Pipeline thing: Yes my dad put in a stainless system in about 1970. He loved not carrying tons of milk!
 Good luck with your chopper! Yep all gone!
 Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 9:07pm
My Dad had one as well. Bought it in about 1969, or 70, can't remember. It was not only his first self-propelled chopper, but the first in the community. Now we don't have any livestock.


Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 28 May 2020 at 9:17pm
I had one of the last ones made.  6V71 Detroit diesel, a pretty good machine actually, just old hard to get parts for.  But rest assured, when you went into a corn field with intent to harvest, you better have a bunch of wagons and capable people to push the blower at the silo hard!  She would fill a wagon in three and a half minutes.  I kind of miss running it, It put a smile on my face every day i ran it, but I was always sitting on the edge of my seat for fear it flew apart, sold it t an auction for 8500 I think 4 or 5 years ago


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 7:49am
Originally posted by Fairlady Fairlady wrote:

I currently just have one pic and it is and old one.  I hope to get more pics by weekend and serial # and info.  Thanks.  I will post the pic now.

That can handle 3 rows of corn???


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 8:33am
Well, yields were only 100 BPA back then...…….


Posted By: Fairlady
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 8:42am
Had to go pretty slow and it did plug up a lot! LOL


Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 9:03am
I enjoyed watching them fill silo when I was very young. The neighbor usually brought in an old Farmall F20 to belt up to the AC blower. Wagons were false gate type with the gate advanced by a little electric motor that they attached to a steel shaft with cables wrapped on it to make a sort of winch. Someone would use a fork to rake the silage somewhat evenly into the conveyor that fed the blower.
That stuff was all gone by the time I started working around the farms in the neighborhood. Replaced by modern Gehl PTO blower and side unloader wagons, also Gehl. The chopper was Fox pull behind, I think we had some other brand for green chop hay. The Fox must have worked OK, it was replaced by a newer one at some point.
I think most of us were glad when silo filling season came around because it usually marked the end of a very long, hot season of hay baling. The weather was usually pleasant and lots of seat time on the tractor instead of handling bales.

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1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 10:18am
Seemed the FOX choppers did require going a tad slower and needed to stay on top of sharpening knives (especially cutting hay silage), at least for the pull behind models of the late 60's/early 70's.
The NE had plenty in the field back then and the numbers were not much behind the NH units where we farmed in upstate NY. Priced right and a good 2nd line for many tractor dealers where 65-75 hp tractors were the large tractor in those hilly areas.
That one does look little for a 3-row and I don't think it would have enough "tail" in hills of any kind. Remember one larger SP unit in the area around mid 70's but compared to the UNI's it was a toy.
Remember Dad sharpening the knives on our pull behind in a matter of minutes and the built-in assy. never wore out the original stone in the 10-12 years we had it.
Brought home a new blower with the new chopper, FOX made good blowers as well.

That unit would be great at shows and it would be neat to see it chopping for sure.


Posted By: Steve Bright
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 10:44am
Here in my part of Indiana I think you would be lucky to sell it for $1800, But I sure like the looks of it. We just don't fill silo's anymore


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 11:22am
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:


Well, yields were only 100 BPA back then...…….

Well, I don't know the year of the machine, and we're talking tons/acre of silage not BPA of grain,.....but I do get your point. Thing is, our pull behinds of the 60's that we had, 2 rows, when I learned to chop in the late 70's or early 80's, by then 2 rows would pull our 70 Horse tractor down. That looks small to me, for 3 rows, even for the age.


Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 11:36am
I really like it too, but agree with Steve's comments regarding price - most of the Midwest is in that boat. It would need to go to someone who likes it as a novelty and has the room to store it (I wish I had the room).

We never had a SP model, but had Custom 90 and 3000 models. Both were really good machines - no real trouble, just keep the knives sharpened. In our area of dairy country, Fox was pretty much viewed as the gold standard.


Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 11:50am
The nice thing about our three row head was that you could adjust it with an 1 1/8 socket and ratchet from 28" to 44" row width...took about 5 minutes to change width.


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 4:20pm
If I remember correctly, those Fox choppers, were around 125 to 135 Hp.


Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 5:04pm
You're right Bigal - They offered 3 engines in that model - 125HP Continental Gas, 125HP Continental Diesel, 135HP GM Diesel. Sure is neat.

I look forward to seeing more pictures and info!


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 7:28pm
I know Dad's was the Continental Gas. He had the 2 row head on it. Then in 73, he went to a Field Queen with the 3160, and a three row head.


Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 7:32pm
Biggest tractor on the dairies in our area was about 65 HP. Made due with D17 Diesel, later Case 830. Neighbor used Deere 3020. Two rows and take it easy.

Lots of You Tube videos out there of modern choppers, 800+ horsepower. The discharge chute looks like the open end of a 55 gallon drum.

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1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 7:46pm
Worked for a neighbor years ago,(‘83-‘85) that had one of those in gas version, hay head was totally shot. Used with 2 row corn head to just ‘open the fields’. Once around the field, and on trip thru the center on all the corn fields. The rest was chopped with a Papec pull behind a Case 1175, or the Case 1030 Comfort King.

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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.



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