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Trailering the D 15

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Topic: Trailering the D 15
Posted By: ACinSC
Subject: Trailering the D 15
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 4:31pm
Just wondering if running a chain to the drawbar that fits in the cat 2 lift arms would be a good way to secure the tractor ? We've always run the chain over the front and rear axle before . Any thoughts ? Thanks



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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 5:12pm
I used 4 chains for my D-14s.more is better, less chance some 'cop' will pull you over for 'unsafe load'....


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 5:27pm
On a 4500 lb tractor, four chains are not required by law. The chains must be of "transport" quality, but two if connected properly are enough.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 5:40pm
Yeah Jay I've always thought a chain over each wheel would be ideal . Can't quite remember why but that's never worked out . We use 2 chains, one on each end . I was just wondering about using the drawbar . Thanks


Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 6:59pm
Why do some belt pulleys use several belts...so each one does not have to do "all the work"... and for me it has to do with safety, in my eye anyway... if you got one chain on front and it does not hold, ,all kinds of things can happen but if you have a chain at each corner and one gives out, at least you can or may catch it before those kinds of things happen... just my two cents, bout all it is worth since I don't haul all that much.


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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 7:05pm
Good thing you are saying using chains ! I hate seeing a load go down the road and jus secured by belts with rachet straps,, 


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 15 May 2020 at 7:31pm
Where is that pic of tractor on trailer that wrecked. Tractor was strapped down IIRR and still on trailer. Everything else was totaled! Tracy

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Posted By: Boss Man
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 7:42am
I've all ways gone to the axle. If one of the pins holding the draw bar to the arms would pop the ending result may not be so hot. Not to mention the whole side to side movement that may allow the tractor to shift. Not saying it won't going to the axle just less chance.



Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 9:00am
I can load and go in 5 minutes when hauling one of the 15's with a heavy 6' brush cutter on my 20' 14K gooseneck equipped with flip up ramps.
Bump the tires up against the trailer front, drop the cutter and run a 1/2" chain around the SC bell. With a good DOT rated ratchet binder, suck her up until I start to squash the front tires against the trailer slightly and hit the road if just a few miles; tractor in gear and brakes fully locked with PD pulled back into low.
If I am getting out on the highway, 2" or 4" strap across wishbone get's added.
3-pt. tractors (15's, 17's and 185) get straps across wishbone and front axle pulled forward and big clevis in draw bar for 1/2" chain, 17's and 185 also get 3/8 chain run through rear rims and DOT rated ratchet binder.
On long hauls, straps and chains anywhere I can get em' on and there is no overkill, just raise my gooseneck tube up to compensate for the heavier units pulled fully forward to adjust tongue weight and keep gooseneck axles where both are in full use.
Have weighed my 15's and Series 2 SC with adapter I haul the most with cutterruns 4400#, just the tractor with 3-pt. adapter.


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 10:07am
I use one chain and one binder on each end.  The front one wrapped around the axle, and the rear one thru a clevis I put on the draw bar.  I use a pipe about four feet long to close the binder.  I've hauled quite a few miles and have never had a problem.  Make sure you have one chain angled forward and one angled rearward.  Drive 5 or 10 miles and pull over and check the chains are still tight.  Make sure your lights all function properly and especially your trailer brakes work.  Load the tractor on the trailer properly.  You don't want too much or too little weight on the truck.  With my truck, trailer combination, I can make the trailer level and it brings the truck down to level.  That's hauling a WD/45 or D14/17.  I use a bumper pull car hauler and a Toyota Tundra truck.  I pulled a couple with loaded tires, but I don't care too.  I usually set the cruise on 70 when I'm on the Eway and just sit back and enjoy the scenery.  Coming up and down those bigger hills in KY and southern OH. does cause the OD to kick in but it gets along just fine.


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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 5:03pm
Thanks for all your replies .


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 5:38pm
I wrote my state rep on this question a while back. The reply I received was four tie downs, one on each corner is required, two on front, OR back required to have 'tension adjusters'. This may just be Pa state law, or Fed, I don't know, but if you are crossing the state line you are under Fed code

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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 6:25pm
Thanks Lou . We only have to go about 50 miles one way . Do cross the state line into Georgia . Something else to consider . Thanks again


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 7:48pm
State of MO if a Brown Shirt gets frisky is any chain or restraint must have a loading device(Binder or winch) then the legality of Transport rated chains and binders two at each end UNLESS the load is situated against a bulkhead of some type then One at that end. My 180, Loader gets set against the trailer neck frame and one chain with a single binder on nose then one on each side off the drawbar supports, each with their Own binder.


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 10:30pm
Got pulled over by a local cop last week hauling a mini excavator on the goose-neck. I had 1 chain over the blade in back 1 in front going thru the tiedown on the machine and 1 over the bucket that was curled. He said it was good that I had the bucket chained but he did say I shouldn't have wrapped the chain once around 1 of the arms for the back blade. I don't think he could have even have seen that when I drove by him. He never did check anything else, license, or registration. Said good day and sent me on my way.



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