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Topic: Ca 12v battery?( Cca?)
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Subject: Ca 12v battery?( Cca?)
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 2:19pm
My model CA is converted to 12 volts and needs a new battery so what size battery is the best for this size motor and also that will fit in the battery compartment on a CA?



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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 2:22pm
I use a group 522 or sometimes call a group 22F (for Ford) it's about the same size as a 6 volt group 1. Don't let the battery place give you a standard group 22, it's too tall and skinnier. 

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 2:24pm
You will have to measure the size of your battery box and get a battery that will fit. I am asuming that it has been changed to negative ground.


Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 3:22pm
I left and did not measure the height of my battery box I only measured the length and width


Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 3:23pm
It's 9 and 1/2 by 7 in


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 3:50pm
I use and sell the Deka 526MF Battery for the B,C,CA boxes. They fit in the box nice. Not to high so you can get the cables on. 665 CCA's @ 32 degrees. 540 CCA's @ O degrees.
HTH.
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 4:41pm
Thanks the height of my battery that's in the tractor box now is about 6 in tall...
I was at my tractor supply company store and did not see anything close to what I have so I'll just have to wait until another day to get something that's a better fit.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 5:01pm
I think mine is a #26... The length is about 8 inches... 7 inches wide and 7.5 inches tall... I like the length to be  1.5 inches smaller than the battery box.. Makes it easier to get the + cable on without contacting the box walls. I have a small chunk of 2 x 4 that sets on one end to keep the battery + side away from the box. .......... the 9 inch batteries are TOO CLOSE.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 5:04pm
A lot depends on what you use your tractor for, but I have a "parade queen" that is only used for parades and shows in the summer. It's never started in the winter. 
A friend of mine had a used lawn tractor battery that he gave me, that works ok for me. 
I would hate to try to start it when it's 20 below, but it doesn't take much to start it in the summer.



Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 5:23pm
Yes my battery that is about 9 in is way too tight in the box...
that's why I'm asking the requirements for it so that I can get a smaller battery that has good enough requirements...
last year as long as I kept a battery tender on it it would start up right away but lately it's been getting worse and worse and now only starts when jumped.
Thanks Matt 👍


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 3:08pm
BCI
Group
Size           Length     Width        Height
26             8 3/16     6 13/16     7 3/4
26R           8 3/16     6 13/16     7 3/4

The 26 is what I use also.  For ALL of the WD/WD45, B,C, CA tractors.
The 26R just has the - and + is switched to the other side, making it easier on some to hook up.  If I remember correctly, the 26R has the + closest to the right side of the box, close to the starter.  HTHs


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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 6:33pm
The 526mf has a huge price variable (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me but some places have it for around $70 and others have it for nearly double that)


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 8:18pm
I have an IB and no good place for a battery box. I tried to hid a small one in front of the right foot, inside the frame rails... All i could get to fit was a 230 CCA lawn mower battery as  WF said... did that for 10 years.. Finally decided i want more a battery with a little more ass to it for winter start ( I plow snow).. so i bought a bigger  batter that is about 450- 500 amps or so  ( Smaller than the #26 )..... so it does not take a lot of CCA to start this motor.............. #26 is ideal for the battery box.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Trapdoor1873
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 9:02pm
I bought a 22F from Interstate. Fit perfect and room for box cover.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 9:51pm
22F is extra LONG and extra TALL...... the #26 is a much better FIT.... a little clearance on all sides is a benefit.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Trapdoor1873
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2024 at 10:06pm
I had plenty of clearance for connecting cables and room for the top cover. Not saying you are wrong. Just saying the 22F worked good for me.


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 6:43am
As I said in my first post : There are TWO different group 22 batteries. Why I have no Idea. One of them is a perfect fit for replacing a 6 volt group 1, the other is taller and skinner. A quality battery shop should have both, just be sure to get the short fat one. 

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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 6:48am
The small cheap (like $60) battery Walmart sells fits my CA perfectly and will start it all Winter no problem.Measure and take your tape measure to Walmart.Its guaranteed 1 year but mine is over 3 years old


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 9:59am
thats what i bought.... about 4 years old now...




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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 10:13am
Since quite a few of my tractors are "parade queens", they are never started in the winter. I've had really good luck with the inexpensive (=cheap) Walmart batteries. I've got some that have a few years on them with no problems. They are kept in the tractors in cold storage in the winter. I rotate a small automatic battery charger between them to keep them fully charged.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 11:15am
A Battery tender is a good investment for keeping Batteries "active". Summer or Wintertime for vehicles not used often. Keeps the sulfating down and adds longevity to the Battery's service life.
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2024 at 2:24pm
Ditto on the battery tender!

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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2024 at 1:51pm
I have solar charger on my bulding and just rotate them around when I am in the building, keep my batteries up all winter long.



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