4 x 4 balers not as popular?
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Topic: 4 x 4 balers not as popular?
Posted By: JohnColo
Subject: 4 x 4 balers not as popular?
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 1:06pm
Watching Big Iron and other auctions that 4' x4' big balers seem pretty cheap any more. I'm wondering that more then age, they are just not as popular as they used to be. I know of a couple guys around who have gone to 3 x 3's after baling with 14 x 18 balers forever. Anyone else seeing a trend?
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Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 2:47pm
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I just don’t get the 3 x 3 idea? Still are big to handle and makes a lot more bales than 4 x 4 when moving?
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 5:16pm
Reminds me of the 39"x40"(?) Hesston round bales. Just don't make sense other than using smaller tractors to bale with to me.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 5:18pm
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I always liked the 4-4 bales Uncle had one an OMC and they were so easy loading, handling- then the other guy I worked for had a New Holland 850 and made them as big as it would go- that poor Allis 5050 handled them , but dam that was a load on it- that was a tough little tractor
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Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 9:47pm
I've seen that also,I don't know why. The 3X4 have really got popular, it might be that the newer "HD" ballers can put as much in a 3X4 as the older 4X4....but that's JWAG..
I have a older, NH 3X4,(I think it's a 91-92 year) and they are handy for us
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Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 9:48pm
I'm talking about the 4 x 4 x 8 foot rectangular bales with 6 strings on them. The balers cost $80,000 new, now sell for $10,000, 15 to 20 years old.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 10:28pm
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A lot of 3x3s here you can stack them 3 wide on a trailer. If you are hand feeding the slices are manageable. Weight is usually in the 700 to 800 pound range so you can lift them with a smaller tractor or skidsteer. When picking them up with a bigger tractor or skidsteer we take 2 at a time stacked up. I have seen where guys with the right forks take a stack of 3. I think the 3x4s would stack better. But the baler is a little more money and 2 extra knotters. I would think if weight was the only issue you could make a 6 or 7 ft bale. I do know a person who has their 3x3s made 6 ft long works better for their situation.
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Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2020 at 11:30pm
I got the 3x4 cause if I am really careful, I can stack them 5 high in my hay barn, the 4x4, can only do 3 high....
I bought this NH about 10 years ago for $9500...its a little different than the hesstons,, and only 5 strings instead of 6
I think the new 3x4,s are $150,000+ now, and they have some pretty neat options, one is, if a wet slug goes in a bale, they have a paint marker for that bale...
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Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2020 at 12:12am
Hi all we find the transport here like the 4x3 bales as they stack 3 on there edge across the deck then 4 bales on there flat on top it means the trucks are at there maximum height 4.25meters from the ground but I like the 3x3 we we’re getting 90 bales on a truck & trailer this summer
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Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2020 at 7:30am
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I see a few of the “Bale Barons” in action here. They take the 14”x 18”x 35” length which is much shorter than the 40” required on the accumulator . A lot of money for the operation, but it seems to be catching on fast around here. Think they are sourced out of Canada. Last set up I saw was being pulled directly behind a NH5700.
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