Stuck tie rods
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Topic: Stuck tie rods
Posted By: sparky
Subject: Stuck tie rods
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 1:24pm
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I have a set of CA tie rods that are stuck. Does anyone know what would be the best way to possibly get them freed up? Thanks much for any help. ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 1:33pm
| Disconnect one end (outside end) and rest the tie rod on a jack stand so it is level. Use a pipe wrench to twist it loose, then try and pull/push it. Hitting the stuck area with a big hammer is good, as is some heat, but the key is to turn it loose first. |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 3:22pm
I gotta try the twisting thing with the set of tie rods I took off my WD45. I've tried heating them, pulling on them, pushing on them.....none of which accomplished a dang thing.  ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 3:24pm
| Careful with all that as I finally got my 180 Tie Rods to come loose now they are the devil to keep tight and In Place. |
Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 4:40pm
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If I do get them loose my next question would be what or if to lubricate them. I'm thinking never seize maybe? ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 6:51pm
I'd think Never Seize would do the trick. If I ever get mine apart I'll try it and let you know!  Good luck with your project.Dave ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 8:12pm
If you lubricate them, they will most definitely NOT stay in the position you set them to. Best to set them where you want and never touch them again. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
sparky wrote:Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 8:47pm
| If you think you will move them again, free them and move them every 6 months. MACK |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 9:08pm
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Yeah, anti seize was a bright idea I had on my XT. Great lubricant, no matter how tight it would slide. Had to remove all the anti seize before I finally could get it to stay in place. Took multiple cleanings. Lol, good stuff, just not on tie rods. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 9:28pm
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Read and learn! I will NOT use Never Seize on those tie rods if I ever get them loose. ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2020 at 9:42pm
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No matter how much heat I never could get them removed. I ordered a complete tie rod assembly from Brenda at SLI. It was less expensive to buy a complete unit versus 2 new tie rod ends. The anti seize was put on the new unit so I wouldn’t have the issue again. You read the rest of the story above lol. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2020 at 11:45am
| Lots of rust holding them tight. Start by jacking up the front axle on the side you want to loosen tie rod. Then torch heat the most inner segment of tie-rod tubing. Once it’s dull red from heat, squirt ATF around its outer open end & continue applying ATF while it cools. The heat helps draw ATF inside between outer tube & rod. Like other said, then try twisting rod loose with pipe wrench on rod. Be patient. Give the ATF time. Heat & repeat. Sometimes takes half or whole day process. Hammering on metal, cold or hot can deform it thus being counter productive. |
Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2020 at 3:11pm
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Success! I soaked both rods in a 4 inch piece of pvc pipe filled with white vinegar forabout a day then used Dr’s method and got them both apart in about 40 minutes of work. Now to clean everything up and put her back together. Thanks again to everyone. ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
Posted By: 1947WC
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2020 at 7:59pm
| Spray them JB 80 before you do anything. |