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D-17 Hydraulics

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Topic: D-17 Hydraulics
Posted By: KP4620
Subject: D-17 Hydraulics
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 7:58am
i recently purchased a 1958 D-17. It has a ccylinder on both sides that hook under the step and go back to the lift arms. i was raised on A C ,s but never saw this before . they are not hooked up yet the hyd works fine. was this some sort of an assist kit that allis provided? It appesrs to be factory.



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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:03am
What's the serial number of the tractor

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Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:05am
10470


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:14am
If thats the serial on the left side edge of the bell thats seoes 1 and it should not have external cylinders just internal serial should say d17×××××

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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:22am
pictures would help

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Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:24am
It says d17 10470, thats why i'm asking if allis had alift assist kit they offered , it appears to be a factory looking add on. i was raised on A C ,s   [wc ,wd ,wd45,d-14,d-17,160,190xt] never saw any thing like this. like i said it is factory looking


Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:30am
Hi.   If we could see pictures of this complete apparatus.    Ross.


Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 8:43am
sorry, i'am very old school.  Pictures may not be a option


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 9:01am
Does it have a 3 point hitch sombody probly put series 4 casting on to get the top link bracket to use 3 point

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 9:07am
Series 4 lift arm housing will not fit older D-17's.


Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 9:34am
Maybe to lift front cultivators?


Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 9:40am
We are trying to pictures, the tractor is very  orginal. it has a three point conversion with it but it nothing late model.  The 3 point it has ,you muest remove the hitch or drawbar to install it.it also appears to be AC . did they ever offer this?


Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 9:51am
Had a d-14 with front mt culitivators,had bars that run under the steps to raise them, don't think this has anything to do with that ,still try to you guys some pictures, thanks a bunch for all your help on this mystery. bought this tractor off a small farm I think low hour and orginal.. needs abath very bad. gqt tractor,snap coupler bushog,sickle bar mower,grader blade and that 3 pt coversion  can't find drawbar hitch yet.


Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 10:38am


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 12:35pm
Sure looks like an option from A-C. The down arms that bolt to the lift arms I have seen before and normally have linkage that connects to them to go forward and lift/lower a front mount cultivator.  The cylinders and their front mounting bracket also look like A-C parts. What kind of valve controls all this stuff ??


Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 12:58pm
The 2 cylinders tee together and plug into the rear outlet


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2020 at 9:25pm
It was a attachment from AC TO Increase lifting compacity.    MACK


Posted By: KP4620
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2020 at 10:09am
is this a rare item?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2020 at 10:22am
I'm going to say very rare, because I've never seem one. Mack must have. Funny thing about that attachment: when the standard hydraulic pump was in tip top shame, it pretty much could lift the front wheels of the tractor off of the ground. How much more lifting power would anyone ever need ?????????   The lifting speed would be very slow compared to just the one internal cylinder. The series 3 models had an internal ram that was a little larger than the older models to help with lifting power.


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2020 at 8:55pm
Yes, I've saw two of them.        MACK


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2020 at 9:01pm
Learned sompin new again! I think I saw once on the web or parts book ..... somewhere, a 190XT with an extra lift cylinder..... I think

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2020 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

Series 4 lift arm housing will not fit older D-17's.
Is it possible to put a series 4 transmission and rear on an older front?

P.S. Read a little farther down looks like we have the answer to the mystery...


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