D 15 seat pins
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Topic: D 15 seat pins
Posted By: ACinSC
Subject: D 15 seat pins
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:10pm
| Wondering if anyone has replaced these pins/rods ? Have one that is very rusty with lots of play . Will a 1/2" steel rod cut to size work ? Thanks |
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Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:17pm
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That's what I used on my 190 seat. Just have to drill holes for the roll pins. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:32pm
| Roll pins ?? Good to know . Hafta get my magnifying glass out . Thanks |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:43pm
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I just did all the pins and bushings on my d15 seat. Pretty much torch everything out. Bought new shock also. Got everything I needed at DJS tractor. Yes there is roll ins in each rod . New rods come pre drilled. Thanks cory |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 4:20pm
| Thanks Cory . If only I had a torch . I've seen those in the catolog . Only have one that's really bad . Beginning to think it's going to stay wobbly . |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 4:59pm
| I always just cut them into with metal blade on reciper. saw. Cut on both side then drive out rest of pin from seat plate. Goes quick !! Cut new pin from cold roll and replace . Most of the time I used cotter pins instead of roll pins. Have not had one fail yet. |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 6:39pm
| Thanks Burl . Sounds doable . |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 6:59pm
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Lots of heat, penetrating oil and hammering. I have done it on several of my seats already. I get my local fab shop to put new bushings in and make new pins out of stainless so they do not rust. It's the best thing you can do to improve the ride on these old seats. Day and night difference. It is a bit of work, but you will notice the difference. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 7:40pm
| Thanks Myron I've been hitting this rusty pin with kroil for a good while . Gonna see if I can find a piece of 1/2" steel tomorrow |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 7:41pm
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Make sure you have all the roll pins removed first. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 7:45pm
| I can only see one . Guess there's two ? Anyone remember the size ? Thanks |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 8:32pm
| I did the seat in our 200 and bought all parts through agco |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 9:03pm
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IIRR, there's only 1 in the center... Comes out better if you have the appropriate roll pin punch... ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 4:47am
| I have a roll pin punch set . This pin's very rusty but I think I see a roll pin on the right . Thanks guys |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 7:23am
| Lay the seat frame on its side and drive the 1/2" pin downwards with a short fat punch and a 4 lb hammer. Doing it this way will shear off the roll pin so you don't have to remove it. Do this with the roll pin down. The seat frame has to be supported against something solid when you start hammering against the pivot pin. |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 11:20am
| Thanks Dr Allis ! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 11:57am
| I guess I sometimes use a deep socket to lay the seat frame against, using the socket as a die to drive the pin into making it solid when you hammer away. |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 12:20pm
| Thanks , again . |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 3:23pm
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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 4:13pm
| Thanks Gary but I only need one of the longer ones . Rest look like they have been replaced. Hopefully I can buy some 1/2" rod somewhere . |
Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2020 at 7:12am
| I did my 190, D14, D17 and D19. Bought all the parts from Agco. Just a punch and hammer to get it apart. |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2020 at 7:41am
| Thanks Lon . With all the rain we're having today may be a good day for some hammer time . |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2020 at 4:18pm
| Started on the rusty seat pin removal today . Looks to me that if you want to replace the shock you have to pull a couple lower pins ? Sound right ? Thanks |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2020 at 1:45pm
| Finally finished my seat rebuild . Replaced the shock and all the pins but one . Also replaced 4 bushings . Much better . Hopefully my favorite son will post a pic . Thanks |
Posted By: WeisAC2
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2020 at 1:49pm
  
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Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2020 at 6:30am
| Thanks to my son for posting the pics and to all the advice I received here. Now I'm ready for some seat time . |