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Topic: 200 Camshaft gas vs diesel
Posted By: WLHD21
Subject: 200 Camshaft gas vs diesel
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 7:37am
I am working on 200 that has cupped lifters and cam lobes that vary by 0.035”, I have a 301 gas from gleaner G. Before I tear it down does anyone know if there different, I would assume they are, but I’ll ask the experts. Thanks ,



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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 7:46am
I would think the valve opening and closing events would be different from a gas to diesel. A quick look on agco parts books shows they are different part numbers, but don't know exactly what is different.

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2020 at 7:48am
The gas camshaft surely doesn't have the 4 inch long bolt in the nose to prevent camshaft breaking.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 10:18pm
My D17D has a gas cam in it. Sounds like you better find the exact cam like Dr A is talking about though.

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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 7:30am
I have heard of guys putting 262 gas cam in 262D, making them run better.      MACK


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 6:17pm
They will interchange - but you are going backward - the gas cam on the intake only had a lift of .355  whereas the diesel was .4405  exhaust was about the same - I can't find the specs now but the gas timing and duration  was a few degrees different.  They were ground out of the same casting. 
The 2000 gas engineering had economy as an objective , the  2500 265 was the cubic inch amount  in gas version to match the diesel in hp but the low #'s were a killer in cost for pistons sleeves and cranks.      


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Posted By: WLHD21
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 10:53pm
Did the 301 gas engines in the XT’s have the bolt in the cam shaft?


Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2020 at 6:54am
301 gas cam never had a bolt in the end.          MACK



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