What Model is this?
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Topic: What Model is this?
Posted By: roberto1098
Subject: What Model is this?
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 6:57pm
Hi Guys, I have a picture of the tractor that my grandfather had when I was younger. I want to find one and restore, but Im not quite sure which model it is. Im pretty sure its a Model B, but I was wondering if any of you could look at the picture and see if there is anything at all that points to what year it could be, or any other information you might have. Im sorry the picture is so bad, it was from sometime in the early 90's. From what I remember, it had a square padded seat, not a metal round one. We had a scraper blade for the back. It was wired for electric start, but we always hand cranked it. I wish the pic showed the front axle, I think it was the straight axle, not the curved pieces. Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated ! Thanks!
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Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:05pm
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I'd say it's a C based solely on the steering setup. On the B, the arm pointed down while on the C it pointed up as is the case in the picture. Can't help you with the year it was built w/o a serial number. HTH ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:09pm
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Looks like my friends 1946 B. He used the electric start but it still has the crank and the flap in front of the battery matches his but that may have been on all B's. So if I had to guess I would put it at mid to late 40's. Hope this helps. Jeremy ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:22pm
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rear wheel look like a B so I am thinking maybe someone had issues and found a C steering box and made it work...
------------- 1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 7:46pm
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I'm thinking it's mostly B, judging by the rear rims and the front. I can't tell enough from the picture to see if it had the straight front axle. I think I see part of the arch. Not sure. The steering arm coming off the box looks really short. It definitely isn't right for the tractor.Don't remember one ever having a downward angle like that. Didn't the early Cs have short arms on the box and the pedestal? My 46 has the long arms. I heard the steering boxes would not interchange between Bs and Cs. Wasn't rotation backward from one to the other? Where's DickL? He knows.
Welcome to the forum! Nice to have you on board. Your questions should be answered shortly. Glad to see that you have the interest in family heritage. I bought my C because that was the first tractor I ever drove, and the only one my grandad ever had. My dad is still using it.
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Posted By: Rog(NCWI)
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:16pm
| I think it looks like a couple of Model B's and C's put together. The steering box is from a C, the rear from a B ,it has a battery and switch box but dos't not have a generator. Arched front end with bolt on wheels. It does appear that the hood does not have the cut out for the lights. I would say if you are looking for a tractor like your grandfathers, find a Model B from after WW2 which would be from 1946 and newer. Or a pre WW2 (1940) without starter and lights. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:24pm
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the motor is an early B- 39 or 40. It has no generator bracket. THE front axle is a B. The steeering rod appears to go to the left king pin, not under the radiator. The steering box is off a C, thats why the rod points up. It will steer the right way because the arm on the box is up , and the rod goes to the front wheel. The center part, torque tube, and steering box, battery box, are probably off a doner C. It has electric start, battery, holes in torque tube for the steering box bracket.. The back end is probably the final drives off the original B since it has B hubs, and not 5 bolt pattern hubs. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: CJohnS MI
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 8:32pm
Twiddled the picture a little. Definitely HAD a generator - that's a regulator just aft of the Pittman arm, with wires dangling towards the ground. |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 12:55am
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All B except for the steering box. |
Posted By: roberto1098
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 10:31am
| Thank you all so much! I am amazed that you all could give me so much information from such an old picture! I know what to look for, if I find something in the near future, I'll be sure to post pics. Thanks again!! |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 10:38am
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I cannot believe all the expert facts that are pointed out. Frankly, seeing the rear wheels I would have easily said it is my favorate. However, reading the above detailed analysis it shows this unit has definitely had some work.
Roberto, You may as well look up the serial number - that is found by the gear shift - and the engine number. It may show shed some more light on a complicated tractor.
For me it is another B. Roberto, take good care of my favorate.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: jjrosty
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 1:58pm
| Looks like an early B. I don't see the temp Gauge sticking out of the hood. |