D17 with D19 back end?
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Topic: D17 with D19 back end?
Posted By: TomYaz
Subject: D17 with D19 back end?
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 3:21pm
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Looks like a Series IV with a D19 3pt back end? Has loader, runs. with wheel weights. $3.5K. Should I?  ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 3:26pm
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Dont think it is, but current owner said the previous owner told him it had a "D19 rear axle" which means? ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 3:32pm
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D18 ------------- HD3 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 3:57pm
| Which means, he doesn't know what he's talking about. I can't see everything, but if it has 28 inch rear wheels, it ain't no straight axle D-19 rear end. Looks like a series 4 D-17 what I can see. |
Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:05pm
| Looks like our IV rear end too. |
Posted By: 200 10and20
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:05pm
| Like Doc says anyone that knows anything about Allis tractors can plainly see it's a D17 series iv with factory 3 pt. A D19 has a straight axle, all you have to do is look!! |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:35pm
well if you dont know what to look for, looking aint going to do much. He clarified and said it was the actual internal axle that was from a D19. Anyhoo I await some more pics of whats behind the homemade cab. Might look at this Saturday. ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
200 10and20 wrote:Posted By: 200 10and20
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:39pm
| One thing about it if the tractor is in any kind of shape the price is right. |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:41pm
Looks decent, Loader has a patch on it; has double pie weights on the rears. Said everything is operational. ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:43pm
------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: 200 10and20
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:47pm
| I don't like the cab but if it runs it's worth the money around my area anyway. |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 4:51pm
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Maybe he means a D17 with the factory 3 point lift off of a D19 ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: brettssac
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 6:55pm
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Final drives against wheels ------------- BX2,IB,WC,D15IG, D15IIDX3,D17DI,IID,IIID,IVD,D19DX3,D21II,HD3,185,AND GOD ONLY KNOWS THE EQUIPMENT |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 7:11pm
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$1000 or less mess of a cab and no fenders. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 7:22pm
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$1000 worth of weights on it. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2020 at 11:40pm
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It doesn't matter what it's supposed to be, look at the serial number and that identifies what it actually is! Find out if the guy has the fenders, they might be in pristine shape. I think I would look over those from rims close, it might need new ones if they are cracked from loader use. Why is there only one tire chain on it? Why does it have a new bolt and nut in the front axle? Does it fall out of any gear? Does the big stick work as it should? How are the rear rims around the valve stems? If I think of any other questions I'll be back! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 5:32am
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Yes good questions. Unfortunately the seller is selling it for his grandpa. Doubt Im going to get good answers ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 7:07am
| D-19 3-point hitches don't bolt up to a D-17 IV- 170-175-180-185. They are a couple inches too wide and bolt pattern is different. |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 7:37am
| I don't see anything that looks like D19. MACK |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 7:43pm
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Ok was told that the power shift does not work. What are we looking at? Bail? ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 8:14pm
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I should say power director doesnt work... ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 8:59pm
| All depends on why it don't work. Could be adjustment from outside to a split. Most likely a split. MACK |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2020 at 9:01pm
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Ya, Its now a pig in a poke purchase. Going to have to offer less than asking. ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 5:44am
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Offered $2500, no deal. ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 7:58am
Doesn't pull at all? High or low out?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 8:08am
| If the foot clutch is totally destroyed, they might think it's the Power Director. Can't say I've ever had a Power Director clutch that wouldn't move, at least in one of the two ranges. |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 8:11am
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What sucked was the guy is selling for Father and giving me info second hand. Said it moves, not sure if stuck in high or low.... ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 8:24am
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Tom, You did the best you could trying to get it. Maybe if you actually could start it and try to move it you would have a better idea of the issues. Reminds me of the WD I bought and the owner thought the hand clutch was a hand brake He said it did not work very well:! Sounds like your offer was generous. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 8:32am
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I suppose I could drive up there..but 3.5 hrs away and Id hate to come back empty handed. And if you'all havent figured it out by now, Im not the most mechanically inclined nor knowledgable of D17 Trannys to make a decent field diagnosis. No bigee...Im back to getting that loader off the derelict 175, making a front pump for my S1 D17 and mounting it there...BTW I then find another very nice S-IV with loader about the 2.5 hours away. Only 2K hours. Wants 5.5K . More than what I can spend right now even though its a fair price.
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 11:06am
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give him your name phone number tell him 2500 cash when he decides to sell it give you a call sometimes it takes a week sometimes it takes 6 months reality will set in ------------- You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul |
Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 11:52am
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Yah he has my info. Said there was a person who needed something cheap to move round bales, and hi-lo not real important. We shall see... ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 6:46pm
| Well, refrain from buying cheap fixer uppers because I have learned the hard way that the bargains ...aren't. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2020 at 5:49am
Bargains can go either way.A few of my best tractors were bargain buys,like my AC 185 with a loader for $1000 been sitting 5 years,put a battery in it fired it up ran good. Changed the fluids,new battery,new one wire alternator and used it to bale hay and other things since then.did have to have $500 work on the injection pump.Actually now that I think about about it almost all my tractors were bargain buys(LOL)
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