R52 Fuel Tank Removal
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Topic: R52 Fuel Tank Removal
Posted By: Amos
Subject: R52 Fuel Tank Removal
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 10:23am
| Has anyone removed a fuel tank from an R52. Mine sprung a massive leak last night. Do you remove the cab and take the tank out that way or does it go out through the bin by removing the sheet metal? |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 11:29am
| Rivets and thru the grain bin. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 11:31am
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Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 11:54am
My thoughts exactly.....
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CAL(KS) wrote:Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 12:47pm
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must be a common thing. A buddy of mine had his repaired due to agco not having new tanks in stock at the time. Used it a day or 2 and sprung a leak right at the repair, so got to buy a new one, which by then was available, and do the job twice! Sounds like a $h!tty job to have to do! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 6:03pm
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Found one at a combine wreckers, they told me they have sold a couple...not cheap price they gave me. Thinking when I get it out I may make one out of aluminum, then I wont have this leak appearing when I need it. My luck things like this usually happen twice...just like your friend Ed... I will decide when I get the old one out. I am curious how come it started to leak, and leak like a fire hose when it did. i would have lost an entire tank of fuel if I had not just happened to walk past it last night.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 7:56pm
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Sounds like an extremely poor engineering job to me! ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2020 at 11:02pm
| i'd look in to see what maybe had rubbed it. I also think i'd have bought a new tank, the used ones may not last long either unless you can find the reason. sounds like you are in for a heck of a job! |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 6:37am
| https://www.ebay.com/itm/REDUCED-Allis-Chalmers-NOS-Gleaner-Combine-Fuel-Tank-/223824975621?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/REDUCED-Allis-Chalmers-NOS-Gleaner-Combine-Fuel-Tank-/223824975621?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 6:46am
| Those tanks won't fit a rotory |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 6:53am
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thinking out loud here ... could you adapt a semi fuel tank ? or some SS tank ?? sounds like they all fail....but why ? vibration ?? rubbing ?? unless the cause is found 2nd one will fail by the sounds of it... putting in a used tank buys you some time, a new tank hopefully more but.....the clock's ticking down...... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 8:15am
| "Sounds like they ALL fail "? I don't think so. I've never seen one fail yet and R-40/50's have been around since 1987. They are a poly tank and I guess the first thing I'd NOT DO, would be let it sit around 9 months out of the year full of fuel, to relieve the internal pressure of the weight of the fuel against the tank structure. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 8:52am
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Oddly enough, the R52 in my above story happened last season, and an R62 here in our town had the same thing happen. So for the few around here, there seems to be a pattern starting. It seems to me is was at a seam, but I do not know for sure. Definitely worth looking in to to make sure nothing is rubbing that shouldn't be. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: LB0442
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 12:35pm
| I had a black water tank on the 5th wheel develop a leak, looks like the same material as these fuel tanks. Pulled it out and it was cracked along a seam. New ones were ridiculously high priced so I went to a plastic tank manufacturer, not too far away, just to check on them making one and they said they could plastic weld it. The repair looks great and it's been 3 years now, still holding. Just another idea for you. I think it was 40 bucks for the repair. Had to clean it out real well first though. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 12:40pm
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hmm.. 'plastic' tank... wonder if the 'rubber' isolation/mtg straps wore and rub-a-dub-dub... wore a hole into the tank ?? I'm betting very few actually inspect the tank and it's mounting 2 x a year..... I KNOW I ain't never crawled under my F150 and it's on it's 2nd set of gas tank straps... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2020 at 4:25pm
| I already have a tank off a truck that I can stick in the combine if I decide to go that rout. Definitely it is the most cost effective way to go, and I know I won't have any trouble with it in the future, I have lots f those tanks around doing various jobs, that have been here for my entire life. When I get it out I will show you what caused the leak and I will decide then what I am going to do with the problem. I may just build an aluminum tank that fits in the same place...will decide when I see why it leaked |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 6:39am
hmm.. depending on size/shape/access maybe an air compressor tank will work ? I'm also thinking the 'saddles' need to be 3-4 inches wide with say 1/2 hard rubber cushions. Aluminum tanks may be fine for semis on the open PAVED road, but combines tend to be driven 'offroad'. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 12:01pm
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N-5 plastic tanks also sprung leaks! ------------- http://machinebuildersnetwork.com/ |
Posted By: Jim NEIN
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 3:10pm
| You said you did'nt lose much how did you get it stopped or did you drain it in a container. |
Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2020 at 5:14pm
| I started a siphon with a 1 inch hose I had through the fill into a portable tank in my pickup, Had to pump the last twenty gallons, as siphon hose started sucking air, the tank had been full and when I stuck the hose in there was still a little fuel in the fill tube below the cap. Lucky I walked by when I did, or I am sure it would be empty before the sun came up. |