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Topic: Hunting Orange
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Subject: Hunting Orange
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 5:28pm
Folks,
I am sure there is a thread on hunting in general. This brings a little orange into the forum, in a different manner. Smile

In PA we need orange front and back and on our head, for this portion of the deer hunting season. I probably should not have had my hood up, but there was a cold wind on my back.
We have harvested 20 or so deer from this little wood lot over the last 30 years. And its right out the back door. 
I was bored and setting in a tree stand today behind the house. Tomorrow is the last day of rifle season in PA. 
After Christmas we will do a little smokepole hunting. I still have a buck tag so that can be used for buck (3 points on one side) or a doe. during muzzleloader season which goes till mid January.

I turned to get down from the ladder stand at dusk and a deer was standing in the bean field behind the stand. Yup it was a little buck, a 4 pointer.

May hunt some tomorrow. May be a few more deer move since more hunters may be out there. Predicting rain.


Rifle of choice is a Remington 7600 pump chambered in 30.06, with 3x9 scope. Nothing fancy. Just a old man in a stand! I have lost some of the edge and drive but still like to spend some time in the woods.


Hope things are good In Orange land!
Regards,
 Chris







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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 5:35pm
Looks cold up there ! Great pics and nice rifle and deer stand


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 5:39pm
This weekend is the Muzzleloader only season here in Illinois. I heard one shot today, at about 3:24PM. You can drive all around and not see a single hunter out and about.
 Oh yea, a muzzleloader is the only rifle allowed in Illinois Unhappy
 I've lost quite a bit of the 'edge' too. Didn't buy a bow tag this year, and may not buy Firearm and Muzzle loader tags next year.


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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 5:46pm
One lone small buck on our place this year, basically stayed well out of range from Me, saw a couple does but nothing would take a shot at. No deer for us this year.

I have not the shoulders for drawing a compound bow back then holding for any real length of time anymore but MO has opened allowance to Crossbows. Looked a few times, pricey and not sure want one but may end up with one.


Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 6:17pm
Chris I shoot the same rifle only in .270. We have to have at least 50% of our upper body in blaze orange or now for the ladies blaze pink. If you wear a hat it must be 50% also. We had not so good of a year. Nobody really does much with smoke poles around here even though I have a few. I shoot a crossbow because of a shoulder that will be replaced. They are spendy, ackward in a tree stand and not so much fun to carry. But I would give up gun hunting over bow hunting if I had to make a choice. Good luck with the rest of your season.

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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 6:25pm
Folks, 
DMiller,
I was never a bow hunter. I was too lazy to practice with a compound. S about 4 years ago my son bought me a Horton brand cross bow/ scope. I had carried a borrowed cross bow for several years prior. I really like the crossbow! Much more like shooting a gun. Just need the deer to be within range, and stopped! Awesome hitting power! I have taken a small 7 point, a couple years back and a doe this year. I like that time of the year, a little warmer! Get one you will like it. Get one with a crank to cock the bow. Mine is still a challenge to cock with the rope pull back system!

Doug, 
Thanks. This stand is whats called a double. Wider for two adults. Very comfortable. Not real high off the ground, maybe 12 feet to the shooting rail. The rifle: Well this is my second one. I inherited my grandfathers 760 (it was a 1950 ish model) I had it re-blued in 1972 and refinished the stock. I have given it to my grandson, hoping to keep it in the family after I am gone! This one I bought in 1997, I am used to the Remington pump action rifle. 

C Tucker I hear you! We have a lot less hunters too. Most folks my age have hung it up. Kids aren't interested much. 

Was telling the wife today, I have been hunting 55 years! Got my first buck in 1967.

Regards,
 Chris





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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 7:35pm
I quit deer hunting about 10 years ago. It just rubbed me the wrong way for me to pay out of state rates to hunt on my own land at the farm. I understand why they did it that way but I pay taxes on 240 acres of land at the farm but because I live in another state they treat me like a red headed step child. For the cost I could afford a whole bunch of steak for the privilege of hunting my own land.........ok I'll go sit in the corner now.

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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 7:55pm
Allis Chalmers caps are good hunting apparel!


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 9:45pm
smoke pole????


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2019 at 9:57pm
yep...it's official! i'm uglier than Chris!


Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 6:59am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

smoke pole????
   I'm thinkin' that's a muzzle loader.

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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 7:01am
That's what I call a muzzleloader. You shoot it and when the smoke clears you see if you hit anything! They are fun to shoot though.

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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 7:36am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

yep...it's official! i'm uglier than Chris!
Shameless, post up that picture of your mug and let the fellers and the girls in pink florescent decide! I believe I resemble your remark! 
Hope I didn't shock anyone too bad. Usually I post pictures of orange tractor stuff and try to stay out of the picture, or far enough away that it may not matter! 
As I approach 68 in a few weeks the looks aren't improving! Also since Mike came up to visit I have decided to see how long the gray hair and beard can get! 
Slow time in the work shop on tractors right now.
We have rain today so I may not hunt. Plus a head cold on top of that. Doing what I do best, resting in the LazyBoy!

And yes a Allis hat would make a great blaze orange hunting hat too!
Regards,
 Chris





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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 7:45am
Folks,
On the smokepoles:
I have a 50 cal. Hawkin style Muzzle loader. It was made from a kit by a friends father. It is very heavy. I tend to leave it in the truck or home and carry a sling shot and a pocket full of iron ore pellets. I put on some small drives for the other old farts that I hunt with. Sometimes it works and deer move, sometimes the standers see deer, sometimes they are close enough for them to get a shot, and once in a great while someone actually kills one with a front stuffer! 
A time for celebration when that happens. 
They are very prone to miss or hang fire, not very a accurate, open sites only, flint lock type only in the late season. I will try to get some pictures during that season.
What fun!
Regards,
 Chris


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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 9:29am
I started hunting deer in 1975 with my Mossburg pump and a smooth bored barrel. I shot a lot of deer with that, and in the 90's went to a muzzle loader more often than not. I have a TC .50 cal that has taken several deer and for the last decade or so, used a Knight .50 cal with a Nikon scope.
 My eyes don't work nearly as well as they used to, so open sights aren't worth a hoot.
 I started bow hunting in 98, and about 10 years ago, got a permit to use a crossbow.
 The Wicked ridge warrior does a fine job, if I can find time to spend in a stand. Helping the neighbor pick corn the last 10 years has severely cut down my time in a stand though.
 I would rather bow hunt, than gun hunt too, it just takes more time to get within 30 yards or so to get a clean sure shot.
 Even thought the wind is wrong, I'm taking the smoke pole out after dinner, to sit on the edge of the neighbors corn stalk ground in hopes of anything brown popping out for a snack before the weather turns tonight.


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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 9:56am
Well here is my white tail hunting adventure for the year.  Tongue

I know this farmer who has three grandsons that are avid hunters.  The oldest one is a big time trophy hunter - he lives for it.  So I gave Jake a call earlier this fall and informed him that my freezer was zero balance on venison.

one evening I am pfarting round here and Jake gives me a call and asked if I wanted a deer.  Turns out he got a ten pointer.  he said that he would be over in 15 minutes. 

Jake (who is 27) and his little brother show up with the critter that had been caped and skinned.  Those youngins hoist it out of the truck, carry it in the barn, and hang it on my overhead hoist.  Within the next two days ( weather was perfect) all is processed and in the freezer.

most people say that those big old bucks are too tough to eat, however i got one of those Instapot's that takes the tough out of it.  Already had a pulled venison roast
 and a couple of venison hamburger steaks.



Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 10:14am
Sous Vide, takes a lot longer, a day or so, but tender and not fall apart like hay strands, is my preference for tough meat. Lots of how to on YouTube. Go with chuck roast procedures and I also recommend boil the meat in the bag for 1-2 minutes just before putting in the S-V bath.

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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 10:25am
Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

I started hunting deer in 1975 with my Mossburg pump and a smooth bored barrel. I shot a lot of deer with that, and in the 90's went to a muzzle loader more often than not. I have a TC .50 cal that has taken several deer and for the last decade or so, used a Knight .50 cal with a Nikon scope.
 My eyes don't work nearly as well as they used to, so open sights aren't worth a hoot.
 I started bow hunting in 98, and about 10 years ago, got a permit to use a crossbow.
 The Wicked ridge warrior does a fine job, if I can find time to spend in a stand. Helping the neighbor pick corn the last 10 years has severely cut down my time in a stand though.
 I would rather bow hunt, than gun hunt too, it just takes more time to get within 30 yards or so to get a clean sure shot.
 Even thought the wind is wrong, I'm taking the smoke pole out after dinner, to sit on the edge of the neighbors corn stalk ground in hopes of anything brown popping out for a snack before the weather turns tonight.

Ctucker,
 Wishing you luck today. Now its snowing here and I may get out this afternoon for the end of the day.

Chas,
 You guys are making me hungry!

A picture from last year muzzleloader hunt. Two friends, they did not get a shot at a couple does I moved buy them.


Regards,
 Chris


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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 12:14pm
Michigan law says blaze orange must be visible 360 degrees. Muzzleloader season here now but I live in the limited Firearms Zone and the Chronic Wasting Disease area and we are allowed to use muzzleloader,straight walled 35 caliber or larger rifles and handguns and shotguns. Sorry no Bazookas or Flame throwers or deer seeking missiles. A no bait ban is in effect and the DNR has been flying planes looking for deer congregating over bait piles. A lot of nice antlered bucks were taken in October during Archery season and some during November in the beginning of firearms season. For me 0. I have woods that joins two other farms and the third farm over was sold and no hunting plus they fall disced the ground so the deer go one more farm over to eat. The farm between me and the one that sold is leased and the owner disced his corn stalks. I have a small doe and two fawns in my woods and I won't shoot them! That is why they call it hunting not killing!


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 1:44pm
Folks,
 Decided I am not going out in this today. The deer are safe.  klinemar is right, I like the huntin part better than the killin part!

A view from my back door: I am theoretically hunting whenever I look out back! The ladder stand I use is just into the woods at the back of these three little fields. About 300 yard walk.

The snow is wet like rain as temps are around 37 degress F.

Regards,
 Chris 


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Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 5:02pm
Yeah, Remington Gamemaster pumps.  For years the rifle of choice in PA.  I bought my 760 Gamemaster almost 50 years ago, 30.06.  At our camp in Tioga county, probably 75 percent of the gang back then carried Remingtons.  And 90 percent of us wore the traditional Woolrich black and red plaid.  I still have and use my Gamemaster.  And I still have and still wear (though not for hunting) my Woolrich coat I bought in about 1972.

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Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 6:51pm
Sugarmaker,

They say us Tennessee boys like wearing orange. Because we can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and picking up trash on the side of the highway on Monday. I heard that years ago from an Florida fan. It don't bother me, I'm proud to be a redneck. I like the looks of that 7600. I never had a pump rifle, but it favors my 870 shotgun. I don't care for assault rifles, I like pretty guns that look like guns. An interesting fact about the model 760. It was the rifle used to assassinate Martin Luther King, in 30-06 too. I hope that statement doesn't take your thread in the wrong direction. Enjoy the rest of your hunting season.


Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 8:14pm
Chris, that is a great view from your back door and from your stand also. I was planning to hunt Friday but it poured down rain all day. Years ago I would have been in the stand rain or no rain but now I will sit by the Fisher wood heater. I enjoy the peace and solitude of sitting in the deer stand and enjoying the beauty of God's creation. I usually harvest a couple of does for venison in the freezer. I like the 2 person ladder stand or a tripod stand these days, I still have a Tree Lounge climbing stand but I haven't used it in a number of years and I think it is the best stand made. Love the 760 Remington too, mine is chambered for .35 Rem and has brought home quite a bit of venison.

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Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 11:59pm
As a senior in 1959 my buddies talked me in to going deer hunting for the first time in N.Y. I had my dads 12 ga. single shot. They told me to go down in the woods and find a tree and stand behind it, and they would try to flush some deer my way. as I am waiting MAN I had to take a crap. In the process all of a sudden there was a lot of shooting and I could see something running, being a good distance away I thought the looked like dogs. I grabbed my long johns and pants in one hand and stood up. evidently the flash of the white long johns attracted the deer and one turned and headed right towards me. I almost hit him with the barrel of the gun. first shot knocked him down, had to reload to finish him. Since then I came to Nebraska in the Air Force and have hunted and got several deer and Antelope. My favorite place to hunt is Royal Neb. I sit on the top of bunch of gullies. Found an old milk pail shoved into a small cedar tree. Back into it, set and wait. When the hunters come and run the gullies the bucks come up on the top hills. I have picked off 3- 12 pointers within 15 minutes of opening season setting on that same bucket.
   


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 12:41am
hows come your grill isn't under that roof?


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 3:49pm
Guys,
 Good comments! The hunting thing runs way deep in the family here too. Since I grew up starting to hunt with a Winchester Model 1897 pump shotgun in 16 gage the Remington 760 was easy to move over to! Yes lots of them used in PA for years!
Looking forward to some muzzleloder hunts after Christmas with the other old guys.

Shameless, the roof to the left is only a pergola (No roof just shade). I dont cook out much this time of year. We are back in light blizzard mode as I look out the window tonight.
We have fresh venison in the freezer and have given some to family and friends.

My son and I still process our deer. It is a lot of work but its good to stay in touch with where our food comes from and how it is handled and processed. We grind most of the venison into burger, and few roasts and the back straps. We also make a venison Kielbasi that is awesome!

Also doing your own processing slows you down a little when your ready to pull that trigger! Then the work starts! 

Regards,
 Chris


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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 5:29pm
I still have  97 12 Ga pump.  I really do not care what the final resting place is for it, but it has a home as long as I can clean it and admire it once a year.

Lots of memories there.

hopefully it will find a good home.


Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:

 
My son and I still process our deer. It is a lot of work but its good to stay in touch with where our food comes from and how it is handled and processed. We grind most of the venison into burger, and few roasts and the back straps. We also make a venison Kielbasi that is awesome!

Also doing your own processing slows you down a little when your ready to pull that trigger! Then the work starts! 

Regards,
 Chris

Chris, like you and your son I process my own and it does make you think twice before pulling that trigger. That is when the work starts. My daughter told me a few weeks ago that she wants me to teach her how to skin and process a deer and she doesn't even hunt. And she wants me to teach my granddaughter how to use a rifle. Granddaughter loves burning up grandpa's pistol ammo how there goes my rifle ammo too.


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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2019 at 6:45am
Hubert, there are some good you tubes on the subject.

I have used them for fine tuning my chop them up act.  Wink


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2019 at 7:26am
I agree with many of you that hunting, skinning and processing the meat from your kill is skills that many hunters lack! A local processor now charges an extra $30 to gut deer! And I have talked to men who worked for him for extra money telling of deer brought in with parts of the guts left in! Yesterday my son and his girlfriend came down from Kalamazoo to hunt and Lydia shot a big Doe. I helped them retrieve and gut the Doe giving advice and actually getting my hands bloody showing her how. She has elected to have a local processor cut and wrap and make the sausage as Deer from our area can't be transported whole out of the CWD disease area which is nothing more than a Government Boondoggle! Yes we could cut and wrap here as that has been done many times past but Klinemar believes in letting his Children make their own decisions and he also believes Klinemar would have done the majority of the work! I am just happy Lydia hunts and shoots and will get her hands bloody! And Nate brings her along!


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2019 at 3:40pm
Wink You folks with hunting season in the cold got it made. LOL Unlike out here where deer hunting is a hot weather thing. More meat has been made less desireable by all the beginners reading the how it from the traditional colder season hunting how to.Ouch You need to get the hid off and the guts out as soon as possible.Now days as small as are deer are just put them in a refrigertor. But when I was a kid you let it hang in the shade with a cheese cloth to keep bugs off and in the morning rap it in a blanket and put it in the coolest place you had. And hang it back out every night until you cut it and froze it. With all that some wanted it to hang 4 or 5 days before cutting which seemed to be ok.

But I have always thought most people that complained about venison being to gamy had some that was not properly cared for.


Having shoot 3 bucks that are at the top end of what we grow here,it been 20 years since I have hunter deer. Always cut my own deer and wild hogs. All the real work after the fun part of hunting has a lot to do with not going. All the "stockholders" that moan and grown if they cannot drive out and shot one any day they show up has not encouraged my hunting ether. So now my son tries to not shot on the family stockholder property unless they all have their meat in the freezer ether.

But there are always hog not that they can be shot every day but with hunting all year just wait they will be back.


So I wish you good luck to all that still have some hunting season and a tag left.





Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2019 at 4:42pm
smoke a rear ham
 put it out with cheese and crackers at a get together
people who claim they don't like deer will be asking where do you get that?




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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2019 at 7:14pm
Dave, I will have my daughter check out those videos and also watch them myself. This old dog could probably learn a few things also.

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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 9:51am
Originally posted by Dave H Dave H wrote:

I still have  97 12 Ga pump.  I really do not care what the final resting place is for it, but it has a home as long as I can clean it and admire it once a year.

Lots of memories there.

hopefully it will find a good home.

Dave,
I kind of kick myself about my uncles 12 gage "97". I had a chance to buy it and messed around and did not do it!. Do I need it? NO! But I had my grandfathers and my dad's 97's in 16 gage. I have given these to our oldest son and hope at some point they go to his boy and grandkids! Something about those old 'corn shuckers' that get the heart racing! A bird goes up and you see how many times that old clackity clack gun will go off! The 12 gages would knock a big fox squirrel out of the top of a beech tree where a 16 would just tickle it!
Hang on to that 97 and get it out and rub it down with some oil and bring back some memories!

I think I was about 10 the first time I shot the 16 of my grandfathers. It had been handled so much that the bluing was long gone. The steel was smooth. 
I had it reblued when our son the current owner was born in 1972. We haven't hunted with it much since then, so it still looks pretty good. 
My dad's 16 we found above a furnace duct when we were cleaning the basement. It was in sad shape. I sanded it smooth and had it reblued about 15 years ago. Our son took it one one deer hunt a couple years ago and hit a tree instead of the nice buck he saw.

They all have a story. If they could only talk!
Regards,
 Chris



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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Hubert (Ga)engine7 Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:

[QUOTE=Sugarmaker]

Chris, like you and your son I process my own and it does make you think twice before pulling that trigger. That is when the work starts. My daughter told me a few weeks ago that she wants me to teach her how to skin and process a deer and she doesn't even hunt. And she wants me to teach my granddaughter how to use a rifle. Granddaughter loves burning up grandpa's pistol ammo how there goes my rifle ammo too.

Hubert,
Awesome! These are skills that will be with them forever! So many folks never get to experience anything out side of Walmart! Sounds like you have some hunting lessons ahead too!
Regards,
Chris


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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 10:14am
Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

I agree with many of you that hunting, skinning and processing the meat from your kill is skills that many hunters lack! A local processor now charges an extra $30 to gut deer! And I have talked to men who worked for him for extra money telling of deer brought in with parts of the guts left in! Yesterday my son and his girlfriend came down from Kalamazoo to hunt and Lydia shot a big Doe. I helped them retrieve and gut the Doe giving advice and actually getting my hands bloody showing her how. She has elected to have a local processor cut and wrap and make the sausage as Deer from our area can't be transported whole out of the CWD disease area which is nothing more than a Government Boondoggle! Yes we could cut and wrap here as that has been done many times past but Klinemar believes in letting his Children make their own decisions and he also believes Klinemar would have done the majority of the work! I am just happy Lydia hunts and shoots and will get her hands bloody! And Nate brings her along!

Klinemar has some blood on his hands! That was usually good luck to get a deer if you had not got one yet! Great that you helped and taught them about gutting the deer. Tell her congratulations from a old man in Pennsylvania! Yes I let my kids and grandkids decide where they are going to to process their deer. Sometimes the weather is a big factor.
We have several butcher shops around here. the cost can be $100 for processing a average sized deer if you want some specialty meats made. My grandson married a hunter they each got bucks and does this year and have there freezer stocked for the winter. 

Here is grandson Nic with his 8 point:


Regards,
 Chris


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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 10:30am
Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

Wink You folks with hunting season in the cold got it made. LOL Unlike out here where deer hunting is a hot weather thing. More meat has been made less desireable by all the beginners reading the how it from the traditional colder season hunting how to.Ouch You need to get the hid off and the guts out as soon as possible.Now days as small as are deer are just put them in a refrigertor. But when I was a kid you let it hang in the shade with a cheese cloth to keep bugs off and in the morning rap it in a blanket and put it in the coolest place you had. And hang it back out every night until you cut it and froze it. With all that some wanted it to hang 4 or 5 days before cutting which seemed to be ok.

But I have always thought most people that complained about venison being to gamy had some that was not properly cared for.


Having shoot 3 bucks that are at the top end of what we grow here,it been 20 years since I have hunter deer. Always cut my own deer and wild hogs. All the real work after the fun part of hunting has a lot to do with not going. All the "stockholders" that moan and grown if they cannot drive out and shot one any day they show up has not encouraged my hunting ether. So now my son tries to not shot on the family stockholder property unless they all have their meat in the freezer ether.

But there are always hog not that they can be shot every day but with hunting all year just wait they will be back.


So I wish you good luck to all that still have some hunting season and a tag left.




Ray,
 Thanks! Your comments are right on the mark! The meat needs to be handled just like a good beef! We skin them as soon as we get he deer home. If the weather is cool we may let it hang a day or more to tighten up some and be easier to cut up. 

Here is a picture of our grandaughter, Addison munching on some kielbasi I made from the doe. She's a eater for sure. May never be a hunter??
We have to have a Ritz cracker ,venison kielbasi, NY sharp cheese, and a dollop of Maple BBQ.
Regards,
 Chris



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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 5:58pm
This is alittle bit off of the subject but-I was at the cabin today to meet with a forester and logger. We have a poaching problem on the road at the bottom of our property so I will drive that road just to see if anything may be going on. I could see where someone had stopped in a few places along the road. One place looked like someone had dragged something out. I walked in just a short ways and saw a leg. I pulled on the leg and found a deer. It was a buck as the rack was cut off. I turned it over and it was totally field dressed and no meat taken from it. I don't know if someone dumped it there and was coming back but it wasn't that old and I think it had been covered with snow. Sorry Chris if I hyjacked your post but I don't understand why some people do what they do. 

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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2019 at 8:02pm
Mdm1,
No problem you needed to get this off your chest and I think every hunter and property owner can relate. Now you be careful out there These guys are armed and may be dangerous. Why would they gut it! But the whole poaching thing is bad!
Not my thread or forum its ours! How about game cameras?
 Regards,
 Chris


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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 5:45pm
Like mdm1 says, Orange is 50%.  And we USED to have back tags, but not anymore.  They were nice for turning someone in for violating.  Now you've gott a see their vehicle and plate # to turn em in.  You used to have to take them to some place to register them before you could take them home and cut em up.  Now you can register it on line, AFTER you have it in the garage, hanging.  How smart is that?  They are saying that the kill is down 20% this year.  I wonder if that registration has anything to do with that, or just NO deer.  I never saw one in the woods by the farm, but could have hit a few on the road going or coming.

Stan IL&TN, with that much acerage, you could hunt it and no one would know.  Isn't there some way to have that as your address also??  I'd petition somebody for help.  What state is the farm in?  If it's in IL, I'd sell and buy in TN in a heart beat.  Very few liberals in Tennessee and NONE of their governors in prison.

Used to be in WI that you had to be handicapped to hunt with a crossbow.  Now ANYONE can do it.  I still like my recurve but it is getting harder to pull it.  Maybe one of these days I'll give a compound a try.

I've got a 7600 also, but in .280 caliber.  I can reach out a long way and it's very accurate cause I reload.  I started hunting back in the early 60s with my first gun, a Western Field 12 gauge and killed a LOT of geese with it too.  Used to go out to North Dakota to hunt them and ducks.  Back then you could ask any farmer to hunt their land and they'd say yes every time.  They hated the dang things.  One guy I used to help on the farm would let me ride along with him in the combine and he'd crawl right into the middle of the gaggle and then stop and throw open the doors and we'd blast away.  A LOT of fun and it kept us in food all winter.  Along with the goose permit, you'd get a small game permit also.  You could hunt grouse or squirrels.  you ever see a squirrel in ND?  Nope, me either.  There aren't any trees!! LOL  Hunted quite a few years, but never got a deer with it.

I've got game cameras up, and I mean up in trees.  They're hidden by bird houses built around them.  I've had guys SHOOT them when they weren't hidden, thinking they'll get away with it.  Then the sheriff knocks on their door...OOPS... one was a neighbor.  Now I'm an ahole.

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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 7:06pm
Ted, Folks,
We dont have to wear back tags anymore either. Just have to carry the license with you when hunting. 
For some odd reason I got the itch to go coyote hunting. I have never tried it. They are not thick around here, but they are here. 
Guys were driving our road the other morning looking for fresh tracks in the snow. Must have found some, there were four or five trucks waiting while one guy tracked them out. Just seems like something old farts like me could do?? Any tips? Gun/ caliber of choice? I would have to buy another gun then too!
Was in the local gun shop today and seen a really nice Gamemaster 760 with my wifes birth date in the serial number. Bluing was real nice not perfect but very little wear. It was talking to me real hard! They wanted $500 for it no scope. Was chambered in '06. Hey scopes can get a little pricey too! I seen several there for $1000! 
Regards,
 Chris


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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 5:51am
By our cabin they run coyotes with dogs. You see their trucks on the road waiting to cut off the coyotes. I think they may even shoot from the road. I tried with a e-call for a short time. Never did much but really didn't work too hard at it. I have put old cameras up in a tree and put a piece of surveyers tape by it so everyone could see it. 

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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 6:36am
Coyote hunters around here use the same dogs they run bears up north. I think they just run the coyotes to their hole. Some hunters go at night with red lights and calls they have success. Usually the night hunters have a combination of weapons meaning one guy with a shotgun and another with a rifle usually in 22/250,223,243 or 6.5 creedmoor. Michigan DNR says can't use any caliber over 264 at night. "I don't know who thought that rule up"? I am going to give day calling a try next month when the coyotes are mating.


Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 2:36pm
My brother had good luck with a Johnny Stewart electric call and a 12 gage with 3 1/2" magnums. Around here you need to be careful not to shoot the ones with the long noses as they are off limits. Body size is much bigger, but if you are just looking thru a scope you can lose the sense of scale. If they come in close enough for shotgun work, most of the time they are okay, although he did have a close encounter once with a wolf that came within 20 yards.
He has since switched to a .223 so he doesn't have to wait for them to come in close, I load 50 grain Barnes Burners or 55 gr Hornaday V max for him over a compressed charge of Varget, they do a pretty good job on a coyote.    
cheers,
Creek

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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2019 at 11:10pm
Dang you guys and gals are lucky getting to use a highpower. We have 1st shotgun season, bow season, 2nd shotgun, and muzzle loader season. Back to back seasons. That might not be the correct sequence. If you are caught with a rifle they will take it, you will receive a ticket and most likely never see your fire arm again. Yet the dang DNR admits this area of the States had more deer per square mile than anywhere else in the States. We can't raise corn, beans, hay on a 20 acre files. The deer will completely destroy it. We are demanding the State government do something about it.


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2019 at 6:32am
In Iowa the seasons start October 1 with bow. Then early muzzleloader, 1st shotgun, 2nd shotgun, then late muzzleloader. Bow season runs concurrent with muzzleloader. I don't know if they still have special late season antlerless as I'm done hunting by then. Iowa has recently approved straight wall ammunition for long guns during shotgun season as well. Last I checked, Madison county had one of the highest number of doe tag licenses available. Blue tongue and EHD are also very high in that area.



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