185 Narrow Front
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Topic: 185 Narrow Front
Posted By: KW269
Subject: 185 Narrow Front
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 8:08am
I'm thinking about selling the 185. Serial number 2726D. I wanted to post it here before anywhere else because I was hoping an Allis Chalmers enthusiast would want it. It runs strong but is kind of cold blooded. It doesn't jump out of gear, has hydraulic PTO with 540/1000 rpm. I can get more pictures in a couple days when I'm back at the farm. I'm not sure what to ask for it because I've never seen another one like it. I'm open to input on what it would be worth. I'm not in a rush to sell it but needing to move a few tractors to open up some barn space.
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 8:15am
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Boy it looks nice this is going to be a very interesting post to watch ------------- You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul |
Posted By: brouillettefarms
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 10:27am
| Sent you a message |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 10:47am
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This likely would have been created at a dealer back in the day right? Were there actually any 175/185 tractors came from west allis with nf? ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 11:36am
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Agco parts book shows 180 185 early serial numbers have a narrow front parts breakdown now that doesn’t say they were shipped that way ------------- You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul |
Posted By: PDehring
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 12:44pm
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Just for a reference, this auction had a couple 100 series NFs in it, the 175 (lot 194) and 180 (lot 133) sold for over $20k. https://www.aumannvintagepower.com/project/details/39569/" rel="nofollow - https://www.aumannvintagepower.com/project/details/39569/ |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 7:54pm
| Good looking tractor,,its not factory but and pieced together, and very interested in buying it,, I think your best bet would be an online auction,, and let everyone bid ! |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 8:23pm
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I'll second Doug's comment. IF you're wanting it sold put it on a well known online auction or if you don't mind hauling it maybe on a collectors consignment auction. The 100 series tractors with NF have been bringing amazing money. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 9:21pm
| 180/185 parts book says narrow front was offered on 180 and 185 tractors before serial no. 12,800 |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 10:31pm
| Welcome to forum. Do yo have any other allis stuff |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2019 at 10:32pm
| Had a friend that ordered a 185 with narrow front around 1970-1971?. The dealer in Danville,Ky. called AC and they built it and shipped it from factory. So yes they were available in early production. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2019 at 9:02am
| I am wrong on it pieced together,, and very well could be factory built, I Alway forget the 180 and 185,s were built together for a few years, like I said before an Online auction is the way to go, just watched a locked up engine 180 bring 2100 ,, and wasn't nothing special about it,,, a nice 180 nf last spring brought 28,000 at Aumans |
Posted By: KW269
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 7:06am
| Thanks guys for the responses. This tractor was owned by my late brother-in-law who was an Allis dealer going back to the D series. I've been using it in the hay field for a couple years and hate to see it leave because this thing steers amazing. I believe he bought it at an estate auction in Indiana in the early to mid 1990's. He believed it to be a factory narrow front. We've decided to wait until the spring and offer it at one of the collector auctions. I have some other Allis items I'll list on here when I get a chance. Probably some D-15's, maybe some toys and books. |
Posted By: curtis
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 11:15am
| I'm interested in the 185 NF,I can be contacted at 910-624-0070. Thanks |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 3:03pm
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^^^^^^^^ This man is serious and a serious collector...I know him😬^^^^^^ ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 6:11pm
| I'll get in line for the books. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 7:08pm
| It is a well known fact that there weren't very many One-Eighty narrow front ends ever produced. I can guarantee there were even LESS 185's made with a narrow front. I've got a pretty extensive collection of advertising literature, and the first 185 advertising literature is dated May of 1970, and makes no mention whatsoever of dual front wheels as an option. The next piece of 185 literature is dated October 1972 and it actually DOES mention dual front wheels as an option!! The roll-shift wide front axle was always standard equipment. The last piece of One-Eighty literature is dated Match of 1971 and it clearly calls out the narrow front end and interchangeable front end support as options. So, the parts were certainly available in West Allis to do it, even tho the literature didn't always reflect the availability for the 185. |
Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2019 at 7:47pm
| Would those tractors be candidates for mounted pickers? That would explain the option. In this area livestock and dairy farmers stayed with mounted pickers well into the 80's. Still a few guys doing it and some coming back to it. |
Posted By: Josh N
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 8:13pm
| I have a nf that was originally off a 180. From what I’ve read it will only fit a 180 or early 190. Does anyone know what would be different on a 185 or late 190xt or would it bolt right up??? |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2019 at 8:15pm
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It will bolt right up as long as you have the correct bolster. ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Jersey Allis
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2021 at 9:50pm
| How hard would this be to convert to? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2021 at 10:25pm
| Not hard to convert at all, IF YOU CAN FIND THE PARTS !!! This would include the all-important front support/front bolster and then the NF pedestal, which is unique to the 180-185-190-190XT. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2021 at 11:07pm
| when you say correct bolster. What’s different about them |
Posted By: Jersey Allis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2021 at 4:03am
| Well now I know what I'll be looking for thanks. I run our 185 on the TMR mixer and have some maneuvers to do. Plus my front end is in pretty rough shape now so I'd love to see if this would be a possible option. I never understood why Allis never made more NFs like other brands of the era.By chance does anyone know what size tires are on the front of these? If I get that far. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2021 at 7:44am
| In my opinion the 180 190,s are a little big for a narrow front, they are built and look tough but only on flat land- Is definitely put it on a well advertising online auction- it will bring big $$$$$ |
Posted By: Sodbuster56
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2021 at 12:16pm
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Any idea if this tractor got sold and if so how much? Thans\ks
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2021 at 7:15pm
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Thread says to sell in the spring. Really rare and nice tractor. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 5:33am
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Your NF 185 serial 2726D is a 1971 year model. See this post originated in November 2019. So KW269, did you keep or sell your NF 185? |
Posted By: KW269
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 10:30am
| I still have the tractor. Was going to sell it last spring but everything was shutting down and we decided to wait. We'll sell it eventually just not sure when. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 6:37pm
| Thanks for the update- let us know !!!! |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 3:03pm
Of LAST year!
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AC720Man wrote:Posted By: only AC orange
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 1:10pm
| What have you as far as toys and literature? I could be interested - lets talk/communicate! Thanks |
Posted By: cadgent
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2021 at 6:31pm
| The 185 stayed right here in the community & is now part of my “local yokels” collection |