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471 Loader so close....

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Topic: 471 Loader so close....
Posted By: TomYaz
Subject: 471 Loader so close....
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 11:59am
But oh so far...

Is the 417 loader but the frame perhaps is homemade,  and has not the oil reservoir.....Came off a D17 IV...I could make it work; but do not need any "projects"...




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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 1:04pm

A Series IV would have a Model 517 Loader.

It uses the tractors live hydraulic pump, oil reservoir, and hydraulic control valves next to the seat.

No oil reservoir in the loader frame, no front pump, and no control valves on the loader frame.

Gary


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:


A Series IV would have a Model 517 Loader.

It uses the tractors live hydraulic pump, oil reservoir, and hydraulic control valves next to the seat.

No oil reservoir in the loader frame, no front pump, and no control valves on the loader frame.

Gary


The moving part is a 417 as I can read it, but the frame doesnt look like a 517 either per the illustration on this old thread  https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/400-and-500-loader-differences_topic135673.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/400-and-500-loader-differences_topic135673.html

The pillars are boxed on the 517 as well as the 417 it appears....




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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 4:51pm

Tom

Can you access the Website 'Grandpas Tractors'

They have an 'Operators and Parts Illustration' Manual there.

It is for 400 Series and 500 Series Loaders, 32 pages long.

On pages 10 and 11 are pictures of the 517 Upright Frames mounted on the tractor.

The upright appears to be open in the front in both pictures.

Gary


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:


Tom

Can you access the Website 'Grandpas Tractors'

They have an 'Operators and Parts Illustration' Manual there.

It is for 400 Series and 500 Series Loaders, 32 pages long.

On pages 10 and 11 are pictures of the 517 Upright Frames mounted on the tractor.

The upright appears to be open in the front in both pictures.

Gary


Yah, In persusing pictures later I saw the same thing.  Looks like they switched to an open frame....


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If its not an All-Crop, it all crap!


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:


Tom

Can you access the Website 'Grandpas Tractors'

They have an 'Operators and Parts Illustration' Manual there.

It is for 400 Series and 500 Series Loaders, 32 pages long.

On pages 10 and 11 are pictures of the 517 Upright Frames mounted on the tractor.

The upright appears to be open in the front in both pictures.

Gary


went there...dont see any manuals to view...they just sell parts



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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 7:15pm

I downloaded all the manuals I wanted years ago.

Try this link, this is the manual I was referring to.


https://grandpastractor.com/kunena/allis-chalmers-equipment/685-allis-chalmers-farm-loaders-may-1965.html" rel="nofollow - https://grandpastractor.com/kunena/allis-chalmers-equipment/685-allis-chalmers-farm-loaders-may-1965.html


Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 7:29pm
Darn the link doesnt work anymore...

Ah well.. I did order the manual today.  

Thanks for the help!


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