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Topic: 720 sickle mower
Posted By: AC720Man
Subject: 720 sickle mower
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2019 at 9:38am
Anyone have a right side lift cable for a 720 sickle mower? It is longer than the one for a belly mower. It looks like they are no longer available.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD



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Posted By: Brian(Va)
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2019 at 9:42pm
I've been looking for one also, good luck. Let me know if you find a source.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 7:16pm
Not having any luck, no longer available which I really don’t understand. It’s such a needed part, that wears. So why discontinue it? Anyway I am trying to find a cable company that may be able to make one. The lead crimps that I use are not holding up. Came loose again yesterday.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: knkrein1
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 7:39pm
I needed to get one for my 80r. I was able to find a place in Taylor Michigan. This is the contact information from one of their cards:

Commercial Group Lifting Products 12801 Universal Dr. Traylor Michigan 48180
phone # 734 947-4000 http://www.cglift.com" rel="nofollow - www.cglift.com Gabe Chavis



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Ken R.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 7:56pm
Thank you for the lead

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 11:39am
Before I start making calls can someone tell me the length of the right side sickle mower cable. Hole to hole.
Thanks
Rob

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: den/southern illinoi
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 5:58pm
My 2 720 sickle mowers are at the Pinckneyville tractor show his weekend and I'm going to Rantoul next weekend but if you do not have the length by the 27th of August, let me know and I will take one off and get you a measurement. Den

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Owner of D & R AC Parts.
Own 6 720s with associated equipment, also 920, 2-5015, 5020, D 14, D 17 series 1, and associated equipment plus 540 loader and 2 electric forklifts and 1 propane forklift.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 8:19pm
Thanks Den, I really need the measurement and since your willing to do that for me I can wait until you get back unless someone else posts the measurement. I measured the left side and it’s 55”. I’m guessing maybe it will be around 60”? Also Den, verify its 3/16” cable. Someone I think posted some time back that it may be a 1/4” cable due to the weight that it has to lift.
Thanks again.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: den/southern illinoi
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 10:19pm
The cable is larger than the left side.
By the way, don't be afraid to remind me when the time comes...just don't remember everything I need to do.   Den

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Owner of D & R AC Parts.
Own 6 720s with associated equipment, also 920, 2-5015, 5020, D 14, D 17 series 1, and associated equipment plus 540 loader and 2 electric forklifts and 1 propane forklift.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 5:51pm

A bit of good news today. Brenda at SLI was able to get me the size of the cable and the length eye to eye. It is 1/4” galvanized aircraft cable. 7x9 strand. 64.916” long. One thing I had not noticed before is the end that attaches to the mower is actually a rounded eye instead of the U clip that is generally used. Now I can make some phone calls hopefully tomorrow to see if I can find a vender to make it.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Brian(Va)
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 9:23pm
I would be interested in any information or source that you find.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 9:46am
Brian, I went to my local Ace Hardware and picked up the necessary cable and parts to make a cable. It involves swaging method but luckily a friend has the tool. They also sell the tool there. It will be the weekend until I put it together so I will let you know how it works. The good news is I have the measurements and now the supplies. Look up swaging on utube good videos there.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2019 at 6:31pm
I’m sorry this is taking so long, so let me fill you in. My friends swagging tool wasn’t the correct size and the local tool stores do not sell one. So I had to order one which wasn’t cheap. Also ordered the special crimps. I have made the round crimp with a rope cable protector that attaches to the mower. Problem now is the tractor end. The U shaped connector that is on the smaller 3/16” cable is not wide enough for a crimp to fit inside, so I will have to have a machine shop make one. Going by in the morning to see if he has time to make one. Will update as soon as I can.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 2:41pm
Hello everyone, I am new here, but I am in need of this same lift cable for the sickle bar. If a method of attaining one is met I would be interested as well. Thanks


For those interested in knowing, I have an Allis Chalmers 720 with 60" belly mower, the above mentioned sickle bar mower, a front mount 60" snow plow, rear mount cultivator, and the 52" snow thrower.


Posted By: Daveb
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 6:41pm
I made up a couple cables a couple weeks ago not to hard   Dave



Posted By: Brian(Va)
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 9:11pm
Dave, would you have any cables that you would sell?


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2019 at 5:20am
Skip, you have some of the most sought after attachments for these 720’s. Welcome to the forum.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2019 at 8:57am
Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

Skip, you have some of the most sought after attachments for these 720’s. Welcome to the forum.


Thanks, would love to still find a rottotiller for it as well


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2019 at 8:58am
Originally posted by Daveb Daveb wrote:

I made up a couple cables a couple weeks ago not to hard   Dave


Would be interested if you are willing to sell me one.
I tried making one myself, but the crimp joint did not hold up.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2019 at 8:03pm
Skip and Brian, I will be glad to make both of you one if mine passes my testing. My machine shop called and he has my U brackets made so I am picking them up tomorrow. I should know in a week or so how my crimps hold up at the tractor attachment point. The factory cable had a steel crimp that was pressed on all 4 sides. I can only do the swagging process. Will give an update when I can. Should have no issue at the mower attaching point.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2019 at 7:11pm
check with Mwells on this site (wellsimplement.com)


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2019 at 2:54pm
AC, that would be great, thanks
Let us know how that works out for you.


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 8:20pm
Hey ac720man, any update on that cable?


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 8:58pm
I did make a cable and it works well. But I had a limited time to do a long term test due to the mowing season coming to an end. Will be glad to go ahead and make you one as long as you understand my limited testing. I have all the confidence it should be fine.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Brian(Va)
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 9:48pm
Robbie, I would interested in one for me. Where in the valley do you live?


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 5:06am
I’m in Shenandoah, I will pm you.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 7:14pm
I am definitely interested. I am not , however, in any rush, as I would not likely need my sickle bar till around June.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:06pm
Skipp I will stay in touch and be glad to make one for you. If you would rather wait until I can continue testing in the spring that is fine with me.

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: Skipp72
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 9:02pm
AC thanks,
That would be fine. It will be nice to be able to use the sickle bar again.



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