WDBottom end is gettin freshend up too!
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Topic: WDBottom end is gettin freshend up too!
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Subject: WDBottom end is gettin freshend up too!
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 6:28pm
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Wellhowdy. I got my head back today from the machine shop and what a beautiful sight to see! I can’t picture myself slapping that thing back on my ole block that has one dished piston... so I decided I’m goin to at least get a flat top to match the other3 as well as new rings and wrist pins and of course it get all miked up. Bearings Seem fine to my eye and touch. As well as the Lobes on the bumpstick. Lookin for input and suggestions from anyyall out there in AC Orangeland with familiarity in WD engine buildin specs. Hints and tips from the ones who have been there and done that! This Tractor does alot of hard work for me and my lil farm. Thanks to everyone out there for all the help! ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
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Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 6:32pm
Head came home today... So puurdy!   ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:06pm
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57, New complete kit may be the way to go. More money than one piston but then you would have a matched set, and the rebuild would be good for many years. Head and manifold look fresh and ready to go. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:26pm
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Sugarmaker that is my thoughts also. Specially while it is all ready apart ------------- We the unwilling Led by the unqualified Doing the impossible for the Ungrateful |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:27pm
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Thanks man ! Yea I figure that’s the best is to have all 4 new. So what do ya no about the 45 kit as they call it in a WD block. Been doin some reading. Looks like a crank and pistons and it’ll be fine with my short head. It be nice to have that extra power. Is it worth it I’m wonderin ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:28pm
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Yea. I’m thinkin so. What do ya no about the so called 45 kit? Do ya think it’s work me buyin a new crank or just be happy with a fresh bottom end ? ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:44pm
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wd cylinder is 4x4 wd45 is 4x4.50 I think you would need a 45 block to put the 45 pistons in it. Plus the crank is different but I'm not sure what the is. I think wd will have a shorter stroke. Bear in mind I am not an expert on this. Maybe some one with more knowledge will chime in. My personal OPINION would be to just put a WD kit in it. No fuss no muss ------------- We the unwilling Led by the unqualified Doing the impossible for the Ungrateful |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:51pm
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Beins im already scrapping pennys togather fer this bottom end job it’s lookin like tryin to do the 45kit is just gonna be to costly. And like I’ve said before that WD had more than enough power to do what I need before any TLC. Can’t imagine the after results Thanks ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 7:56pm
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I have four used WD flat top pistons. You can have the best one free. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 8:15pm
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Tim's offer might keep your budget intact. I think I may have a couple 4 inch WD flat tops too. Not sure of condition? WD45 crank should work in the WD block. But the farther you go the deeper the water!:) I am going to have way more in the tractor I am doing, than I will ever be able to get out of it. My goal is for one of the great grandsons to pull it about a dozen years from now!:) Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 9:11pm
| The 4 1/2" stroke crankshaft of a WD45 fits right into a WD block, but you need to use pistons for a WD45. The air cleaner is bigger as is the carburetor on a WD45. Looks like you already have a WD45 manifold. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 9:52pm
| BE SURE TO REPLACE THE CAMSHAFT BEARINGS !!!! |
Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 6:50am
| Another thing to think about is the sleeve O-Rings. You don’t know how old they are. Time is as hard on them as anything. It would be a shame to do all that work only to find coolant in your oil one day. If I was in your shoes and I could find the money. I would put a new engine kit in. Shop around. Last one we bought for the 8050 got a heck of a deal from minpar. All ago parts. Good luck |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 7:36am
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57, Great projects just take a while. I have had the same concerns on the tractors I have worked on. My WD could use a engine kit. Just not sure I want to get into it. Good luck with your tractor. Some good suggestions and lots of information here to help you. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 10:59am
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Best tip is to get everything machined and balanced properly, technology has come a long way since those engines were new. Full rebuild now and you'll never have to worry about it in your lifetime  ------------- 1951 WD #78283, 1918 Case 28x50 Thresher #76738, Case Centennial B 2x16 Plow |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 7:43pm
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Bill, Good looking WD rebuild! That is one thing I did not do, balancing the rotating parts, I didnt even think about it. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:33pm
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Hey Thanks Tim. I’ll keep ya in mind! ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:36pm
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Hi Dr I think my Marvel Schedbler TSX773 is also a WD45 piece . Just got the refresh kit from Mikes l And oh yea I’ll get them camshaft bearings ! Thanks ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:38pm
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Hey yea I didn’t even think about sleeve orings. Hmm I see these engine kits go fer round 4-500 bucks I thinks that’s what I’ll do. ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:43pm
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Holy mackerel. That thing is beautiful! I will Forsure have it machined and balanced. Thinkin on just havin the machine shop install the pistons rings etc etc while they got the block anyhows. Then I’ll put the top back on and reassemble from there up ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:51pm
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Hi Chris. Yea I’m just gonna havta deal with not havin her up and runnin again as fast as originally planned. But will be worth the extra Wait many times over!!! ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Posted By: 57WD45FarmUse
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:54pm
  Just an update on the paint there Chris. I got my first coat on today. She looks so Happy ------------- 1950 WD, Adjustable WF, 12v, PS, New style OK Tractor 3point hitch. Kelly front loader. Farm Use Only |
Sugarmaker wrote:Posted By: Phil48ACWC
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 6:12am
| I sill have a lot of WC, WD, WF engine parts for sale, cheap. See first page of classifieds on this site. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 7:35am
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57, Its going to look and run good too! Good work! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |