Need help trouble shooting ONAN
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Topic: Need help trouble shooting ONAN
Posted By: coggonobrien
Subject: Need help trouble shooting ONAN
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 4:58pm
| I'm getting any fire even though there is juice to the ignition box. When turning the motor over I do not see the rocker moving in the ignition box. Where should I start? |
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 05 May 2019 at 8:07pm
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Sounds like you may need a new ignition pin that opens the points. The are made of carbon fiber I believe and they do wear. That’s one of the reasons the points have to adjusted in addition to the wear of the points itself. I replaced mine as well as the guide. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 12:55pm
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So, as I asked on another thread about these points, Does anyone know of a good electronic conversion? Even good quality points and condensors have been hard to get. Is that pushrod a readily available part? Cummins sure jacked all the prices of these parts years ago! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: ShaunE
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 7:44pm
David, If your points plunger has worn to the point it won't open the points any longer then you can take an old Buss Fuse & break the glass out of it & place the metal end over the points plunger to hopefully give you enough length to reset the point gap. I know it sounds crazy but I read this on the smoke stack forum, tried it & it worked. You will still need to eventually purchase a new points plunger or convert to Electronic Ignition. |
coggonobrien wrote:Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 9:31pm
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Ed the Onan parts are crazy pricey for sure. When I went through mine 7 years ago I could not find an electronic ignition. There was a post on here about a year ago that a member said they installed one. I should have searched before I responded to see if I could find it. I would like to rebuild one of my Onan’s but finding a .10 over kit has eluded me. They sure are proud of their parts for sure. Hopefully someone will post the electronic ignition again. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 9:36pm
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Jacks small engines and SLI have the Onan parts if you haven’t already checked. Imagine Steve also, he may also know of a electronic ignition. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 11:00pm
| i heard that some one at sandy lake was working on an eletronic ignition conversion kit for the cckb and ccka |
Posted By: Brad in WA
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 5:27am
| Check with Sandy Lake on the electronic ignition, pretty sure they have them. |
Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 9:14am
| Sandy lake does have the conversion but the price is ridiculous. I thought it was 500 or 600. Whatever it was I was high enough that I would rather do a motor swap if it came to it. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 1:11pm
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WOW! My luck, I'd spend 500 bucks on electronic conversion, then chuck a rod the next time I used it lmao! Looks like I can just keep replacing points a bunch of times for that much! ouch! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 4:14pm
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Having trouble shooting at an ONAN? 😼 Maybe you need a bigger target 🎯 after what experience I’ve had with ONANs, I lump them in with Tecumsehs and 2 cycle dogtriots👎👎👎 ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 7:33am
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does anybody have a part # for the points plunger? |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 12:58pm
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seeing this reminded me that I have a parts book in my 720 binder. Looks like it's 160-0262, looks like it is several parts. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 7:16pm
any one have the Standard Blue Streakpart number for the points and condenser i may have some NOS thank B:-) Dnoym https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiKsdmolI3iAhVOcYYKHWvXCcoYABAAGgJ2dQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAASE-Ro_YiFsZ0TFre6FhonL01KtFE&sig=AOD64_3sUSQ1JDXacpZNsLKdgGcKdS21lg&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiA7tKolI3iAhUQnFkKHT9pD-IQ0Qx6BAgNEAE&adurl=" rel="nofollow - -
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Posted By: Rod in MN
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 9:44pm
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HI Coggonobrien, What Model of Onan Engine do you have it would be something like CCK,CCKA , CCKB, B43G,P218G The last to are John Deere models Rod in MN
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Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2019 at 8:00am
| ccka |