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Topic: Wd spin out rim question
Posted By: 59f100292
Subject: Wd spin out rim question
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 5:46pm
Widening the rims on my Wd. To my surprise I had no problem getting them loose with a breaker bar. Now that the rim is set out it’s tough to get any power on the breaker bar, and I can’t get any of the four more than half way tight. Is it acceptable to put an air impact gun on them, or am I going to break something unnecessarily. If I shouldn’t do that, I’m thinking about a foot of extension on the socket to get the breaker bar out past the rim where I can put some weight on it. Any other tips to getting these things tight?



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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 5:56pm
Didn't lose the rail sliders, didja?Wink

Another way of tightening them up, if the rail is worn, is to shim between the rail slider(s) and the rail. Don't use a impact, the bolts have a stop ear, on them, and an impact can break 'em offWink

Also, the rails may actually be tight, upon re-reading your post. sometimes the rails are more worn on one section of the rail, than at other positions.  I would use a 1/2" breaker bar, and enough of an extension, to get the clearance, to get better leverage...Hug


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Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 6:23pm
I don’t think it’s a matter of too-worn, in fact it’s been recently painted by the prior owner, and I could believe the rails are a bit over dimension, making it tight to get the eccentrics to have clearance to rotate fully into position.


Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 7:31pm
Move the tractor so that the locks are at the 12;3;6;and 9 O'clock positions. Tighten bottom one 1st then do the sides and finish up at the top. Them pins are tuff; you may need to use a cheater pipe on the wrench. Be sure you have installed the rail lock.

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Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 03 May 2019 at 9:58pm
I have the rim at its widest point, with the eccentric in the corner of the rail and one rail lock on the other side.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 9:44pm
Might be just a tad TOO far out.  As said, 12, 3, 6, and 9.  Start at lowest and then sides and then top.  I've used a 6' breaker bar 'extension' for these and I weigh somewhere around 225.  They aren't easy, but they're not supposed to be.


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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:40am
A minimum amount of lube will help.
Just don't get any lube on the block/rail contact points.
I have used my 3/4" drive socket and a piece of pipe........
One time I also twisted the head of a cam bolt right off!


Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:53am
Sounds like you need to disassemble and clean them up. Put anti-seize on the eccentric pin. They will work much better.

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Posted By: 59f100292
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 10:08am
I’ll give that a try. I did put an electric impact gun on them but it was not powerful enough to get them to move any further than I managed with a breaker bar


Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 11:28am
Take them apart and put the pins in from the back side. Then you can use your impact to spin them with out the stop hitting. Put a little oil on the pin to create a lapping compound. Works great and it's fast. It will get them turning freely with little effort. Put them back together with anti-seize and they will work for decades.

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