D17 diesel starter? problems
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Topic: D17 diesel starter? problems
Posted By: n17cattle
Subject: D17 diesel starter? problems
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:04am
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Hello folks, I have a d17 and its diesel, not sure of year. Ran fine, has 12 volt system, alternator hasnt worked for a while. now wont start, just a hard click when I turn the key to on, but nothing when I attempt to start it. it has 2 solenoids mounted just front of the battery shelf. Any suggestions on how to trouble shoot this thing would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:12am
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Check the volts at the starter when trying start engine. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:19am
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I solenoid is for the intake air heating element and the other would be for the starter. Dusty has a good test, also check the volts at the battery while attempting to start. Also, see if the engine will roll over by hand just for the H3!! of it........ ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:44am
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You said the alternator has not worked in a while. Fix it, charge your battery and the tractor will start. A drained battery will make the solenoid click but not turn the starter. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: farmtoybuilder
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 12:28pm
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check and make sure engine isn't locked up. ------------- 5 different TT-10's,5 TT-18's Terra Tigers,B-10,2 B-207's,B-110,2 B-112's,HB-112,B-210,B-212,HB212,2 Scamp's & Homilite T-10. Still hunting NICE HB-112 & anything Terra Tiger & Trailers for them. |
Posted By: n17cattle
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 1:05pm
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it has a fully charged battery 13.6 volts ]
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Posted By: n17cattle
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 1:07pm
| it appears to be the solenoid... 12.8 on battery side 8.6 on starter side |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 4:57pm
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Check all the cable/wire joints, it could just be a bad, loose and/or corroded joint/connection. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: n17cattle
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 5:49pm
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I put a new solenoid on it and had the exact same experience So i pulled the starter and found the bendix stuck in the forward position will attempt an internal clean-up and let you guys know how things worked out, side note Ill be changing all of the connections and replacing any questionable wires or cables.
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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 6:28pm
8.6 should be enough to turn the starter. What is the battery voltage while you are attempting to crank the engine? |
n17cattle wrote:Posted By: polarbear
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 12:57pm
| take jumper cables to starter ground on starter body and hot on starter where battery connects to starter if it tries to start work your way back |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 12:55pm
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The Battery may have 13.6 standing volts, but to make sure its supplying enough power in the crank mode, you need to do a draw test on the Battery to make sure its good. Do a draw test. If the Battery is good, check & clean your connections. Wouldn't be a bad idea if you took the Starter motor to the local rebuilder and let him run some tests on the unit to make sure that's okay also... HTH Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: n17cattle
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 5:28pm
| The starter was just dirty... internally after a good cleaning and shining my tractor is running again... thanks for the help Gents |