When did NF production stop ?
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Topic: When did NF production stop ?
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Subject: When did NF production stop ?
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 7:08pm
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Did the rest of manufacturers stop producing NF tractors the same time as AC ? 100 series were the last AC models but what about the other colors? I assume front end loaders on larger horsepowered tractors and larger tractors in general was the reason . I always liked the look of a NF tractor , more so on the newer stuff . The recent mecum auction got my mind wandering. We never had a NF on the farm but I have a D17 NF and love it for mowing and such . Seems you can get it in tighter spots and spins on a dime. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 7:38pm
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My Dad had several narrow front tractors (WD, WD45, Farmall M, & Farman H). Yes they turned in tight spaces. Hauled many a loads of manure cause they could manuerver great in & around cattle shed & feedlot. They were also great pto for feed grinders, roadside ditch & hay mowing with sickles bars, and they were the best at getting into very tight spaces for pto grain bin augers. All of them being gas engines made starting them easier in the cold Midwest winters. Now for field tillage or planter tractors - not a favorite. Could break your hand or finger if harrowing plowed ground when narrow front caught sideways in dead furrow. Steering wheels had spinners cause power steering wasn’t common. Spinner is what cracks your hand when front end cocks sideways in loose soils. Which reminds me that their brakes were usually worn out cause ithey were a bear to turn at headlands. Hydraulics were not as good either which complicated turns with disks & such. Plows had to have a true centerline to drawbar draft cause onland narrow front didn’t bite good & usually no differential lock on rear axles to assist pulling evenly. Row crop cultivating was not to bad if it was a rear hitch type. If it was a front mount cultivator, it was easy on the driver’s neck, but weighted steering could be difficult to muscle for a young guy. |
Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 7:53pm
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I think AC was one of the first to quit the narrow fronts. I have seen a lot more IH big and modern narrow front tractors like an 856, 1256, I may be wrong but I think you could get a 1066 with a narrow front. ------------- Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240. |
Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 8:39pm
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The last Deere tractors were supposed to be the 4030,4230 and 4430. But there are several confirmed 4040's with factory narrow front. Massey I think the 1080,1100 and 1130 were the last and Ford the 8600 and 9600. I have seen a handfull of 66 series IH's and know of a 1086 with a narrow front but not sure if factory or built. Some of the 70 series Case tractors were narrow front as well. Tom |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 10:53pm
| Had a friend with a 200 with factory NF. It was an early one and the dealer(Danville,Ky.) special ordered it for him. I'm sure it was built from leftover 190 parts. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 7:56am
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Have seen pics of a 1086 with a narrow front, that would have been a '77 or newer. IH used some of those at the factories to move things around. Friend of mine has a 1066 with NF his dad bought new and mounted a corn picker on. |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 8:45am
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 9:38am
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AC7060IL wrote:Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 9:48am
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That 6080 was built using a Ford front pedestal if I remember right. Where I lived in the 80's in Colorado, cultivating was done with a single front tractor so it would pack the middle row, also ran duals at 120" to pack that row too. Neighbor wanted a new 986 and they told him, not avail, but he was persistent, and they built him one. It was a late model tri stripe. They said we can build the convertible front end, just cannot provide the single front fork and wheel. That he was fine with. We switched an 856 from wide to single and back to wide, every summer. We cultivated 6 30" rows, so this allowed us to irrigate every other row. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 9:49am
------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 11:32am
 Here's a pic, I love the look of a large narrow front! Wish I knew how to make the image larger. |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2019 at 12:01pm
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Since the 8000 came out 85% of the tractors are MFWD. Besides too many folks either rolled a narrow front or know someone who did. Just like the belt pulley it’s an idea that’s time has long since past. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 9:17am
| Nothing sinks or pushes in the mud like a narrow front... |
Posted By: BillinAlberta
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 9:29am
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We never raised row crops like corn in this part of the world so there was little need for a narrow front tractor. They are a scarce commodity in these parts.
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Posted By: dfh9036
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2019 at 5:43pm
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Ky. Allis, I am assuming that the Danville, Ky AC dealer that you are referring to is Whitehouse-Humphrey? My grandfathers bought tractors from them as well as implements and parts. Always loved going there and sitting on the new tractors while my grandfather was busy inside. Also liked to load up on the new brochures. As I remember they were also a Massey-Ferguson dealer. Brings back many fond memories. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 4:43pm
And how many of those brochures did you save?  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 5:25pm
| dfn9036 you are correct. It was Whitehouse-Humphrey. In 1972 we bought a new 185 with front weights there for $7,500.00 And your right they sold AC and Massey tractors along with Woods,New Idea,Papec and probably more. It was a great dealership. It's long gone now and has been for many years. I drive by there often and picture it in my mind how it was. A discount food store is now where the building was. My how times have changed and honestly it sucks. |
Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 9:03pm
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I bought a new 175 in December of 1978 and I didn't have much money to spend so I tried to get one with a NF I thought it would be a little cheaper, and the dealer told me that the last year that you could get a NF was 1973. that is when OSHA outlawed them. ------------- 190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more |