just have to vent
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Topic: just have to vent
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: just have to vent
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 6:50pm
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Why is it some people just can't sell off their old tractor? This old Case garden tractor has been sitting under the same tree for 20+ years. Every 2 or 3, I politely ask, is it for sale ,or when you decide here's my name and number. Today, they have a yard sale, walk up,she knows me by sight(though it's been 4 years) and say' No, Dad won't sell it,well maybe for $1500'.I sigh and nicely say 'guess it'll be buried next to him'. She laughs ,says probably. Yeesh,15 years ago it was resorable,10 years ago it needs more work,now it's really just a parts tractor,not a project,cost more to haul away than scrap value. Just seems a shame that the old thing isn't in a loving home where it'd be appreciated.
Sigh...Ok, I've vented...thanks guys.
Jay
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 6:57pm
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Went driving down a road near here the other day and there is a WC (unstyled) setting in a overgrown flower bed (a lawn ornament) but in front of it is a J D green (7 ft) mini wind mill all painted up nice with decals , while the WC is faded and rusting away.
S C R E A M .. just to myself though
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Posted By: RickUP
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 7:43pm
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Not a tractor, but a 71 challenger 340 auto. the plate is 1981. They won't accept an offer. I am as freaked out as you are. It just sits and rots. I'm sick again. bye.
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Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 8:40pm
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I can't understand it either, I think some people just enjoy having something that somebody else wants even if they never plan on doing anything with it.
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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 8:48pm
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Then you guys don't want to hear that I have a steel wheel B in my Wifes flower garden.
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 9:03pm
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Jay the tractor is in a loving home. The old boy can see it every day and it takes him back to the good old days.
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 10:42pm
I agree Fred....beats someone buying it for pennies and sending it to China!
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Posted By: Osage_Orange
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 11:00pm
Yeah Rick. I'm a MoPar nut too. Over the years, I've seen lots of cars that had the wheels removed, sitting on the ground with the floors rusting out, doors and windows open, etc., and the Owner says "yeah, I'm gonna restore it one of these days" or "I'm saving it for ........". It's a real shame.
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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 11:10pm
A horse stable not too far from me has a 190 wide front with a factory snap coupler that they only use to spread manure.It sits outside and they don't take care of it.My brother told me about it,I went and talked to the owner.He said as long as it still starts he won't get rid of it.My brother told me they never sell anything and it will rot in a fence row for 20 years before it will be sold for scrap.
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Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 11:18pm
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Yea..have a guy by me with tons of allis stuff that has been sitting out for years...called and asked about it and he said "Nope!" and hung up on me. I think the guys name was Richard...cuz he was sure acting like one. Whats even more sad is when you explain your intentions to restore it...and they still don't want to sell it. People like that are a Pain in my Face.
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Posted By: Wendell(OK/TX)
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 1:17am
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Well, I'm starting to thin my projects but no the allis stuff isn't going anywhere. I know where a roto baler and grain drill are that haven't moved in 30 years and he won't sell!
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Posted By: Brad MI
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 5:12am
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I have a neighbor that has at least 3 WC's, a couple B's and C's and probably 2 dozen old AC implements setting in their bone yard. I can see one WC with a center mounted sickle mower and a couple AC disks from the road. Everything on that farm has always been AC. They never sell anything and I never even ask to look it over. Like Fred said it is in a loving home; they like to look at it and remember the farm's heyday and what grampa and grandma had going back than. I respect and understand that.
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Posted By: RichinWis
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 8:40am
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Way back when I was in high school we would drive by this guy's farm that would not sell anything, but about 8 yrs ago we bought the Allis C and Loader from his son. Had to wait till He passed on. I guess you just have to live to see it.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 8:44am
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Brad Mi.,
You need to ask because one day it will disappear and you won't like to hear what happened to it.
I have talked to many a persons and got everything from a to high a price to have to talk it over with the family to I'll write your phone number down. and a short while later its gone and I didn't get it.
Looked at an old Forty diesel Cat and I got the pony engine loosened up and covered the pipes and paid more attention to it than it had in previous 10 years and talked to woman and asked if it was for sale. she took my name, and said she had to talk it over with her blind husband and I told her I could give 700 for it. 9 months later I drive by her place and its GONE! I stop and ask what happened to it. She says "Oh, I couldn't find your name and a fellow stopped and said it was worth only 300 and husband sold it." Who I asked, I don't remember....blah blah blah.. her loss ..and mine . crap happens.
Another fellow had a 30 Cat and he knew I wanted the thing and he kept wanting to trade a gun for it. I offered him a hundred bucks cash. 2 years later he sold it to a fellow that was collecting crawlers for ... a hundred bucks by check... that bounced, and by that time the crawler was gone.
Sometimes you have to become persistant and/or a pest and other times just let them know and then let nature takes its course. Hard to tell when.
And for the last many years with all the county junk ordanances, people had to get rid or cleanup their places because of people passing them laws. And down the road it went. The last few years with high scrap iron prices, it went into oblivion faster.
I will tell you of one more experiance... Went into a small scrappers yard and walked over a 190 narrow front. bought a few things and then decided I should go back at get the narrow front. 2 D17 narrow fronts layed there but not the 190. Asked what happened to it and he said, " oh it just layed in my way and it was heavy so I loaded it up and hauled it to the scrap yards." NO Thanks to me for being dumb and slow about asking for it the time before.
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Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 9:14am
when I was 15, a guy down the road was an old farmer had a 53 Chevy pickup sitting in a lean-to....wouldnt have taken much to make driveable and I wanted to restore it as my first truck....re-driveline it but make it look stock so it was driveable....well anyway I was persistent....wouldnt sell it....he sold it to an older guy up the road cause he figured I was young and was gonna chop it up and ruin it.....I hate when people judge me because of my age....I dont know it all, but for 27 I know alot and make it a point to try to know alot....being knowledgeable gets you far in life.....hopefully I can talk the guy out of the 57 Fairlane retractable hardtop in the shop at the house Im trying to buy
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1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 9:26am
Jay, I have the opposite problem. I have a 65 Mustang sitting out and have had a half dozen people stop and ask if it's for sale. I say yep $500, it is 6 cylinder and needs shock towers, floor pans and trunk pans and front frame rail sections. Everybody says they will come back and look it over and nobody has. I've even had several people call about it after seeing it from the road or hearing about it and none have come out to look it over.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 10:20am
In other words you have the top 2/3 of that Mustang, the rest has rusted away.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 10:30pm
Yep, with new rear quarter panels, new door skins, and new rocker panels, and no front fenders and no bumpers.
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Posted By: allisorange
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 6:43am
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I been trying to buy a 303 baler from a neighbor for years and they just say not for sale. It's sitting outside just rotting away.
John Carlson
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Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 8:40am
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I have a JD 45 combine just sitting waiting for a new home.
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Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 8:21pm
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well im guilty of what your saying. alot of people want it for nothing and refer to it as junk. if so why do they want it. I enjoy it and have stories behind most pieces.I also have one in the frt yard dave,1936 wc. and its the land mark of the neighborhood.
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Posted By: Harvey/pa
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2010 at 8:53pm
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When the youngest daughter was 16 she wanted a 67-72 Chevy pickup. There was a 69 setting in a neighbors yard, rusting awayfor 10 years, told her I could get her that one(never asked the guy) "NO WAY, I want a nice one"(restored, she meant)A few months & high price tags later she says go get it. I stop by & you gessed it, lots of offers on it & its a classic etc. When I said my 16 yr old daughter wants it he says " the little girl that shows cows & gets her picture in the paper?" Yep that one, he was offered $2500. but what can she afford? I said $1500. tops & he sold it to her for $1200. because "it needs some work". It only had 38K miles on it, I was glad later when someone hit her head-on that she was driving something solid, no injurys, fixed it up again & she traded it on a car & now 14 yrs later wants another one(hubby has a 65 Ford pickup he restored) Why are these girls never satisfied?...Harvey
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