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Topic: 1966 AC corn chopper lawsuit archive
Posted By: AC7060IL
Subject: 1966 AC corn chopper lawsuit archive
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 8:37pm
It’s an interesting read https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/254/223/1663245/" rel="nofollow - https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/254/223/1663245/



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 7:15am
I always say: " you've got to be smarter than the device you are operating."


Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 7:57am
Rumor always has been that Allis stayed away from making a Big round Baler because of all of the lawsuits from the Small round Baler. You would think that AC would have been a pioneer of the big rounds, but they decided to stay out of the game.

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 8:18am
And this is just one more of a long list of the hidden costs in building something. If you can't read about it then don't run it!

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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 5:33pm

Suit: it’s the manufacturer’s fault that I backed a lawn mower over my son

The  http://manuals.deere.com/cceomview/OMGX21647_K3/Output/Index.html?tM=HO" rel="nofollow - manual for the L120 John Deere mower  reads:

DANGER: ROTATING BLADES CUT OFF ARMS AND LEGS

· Do not mow when children or others are around.

· Do not mow in reverse.

· Look down and behind before and while backing.

· Never carry children even with blades off.

It also warns:

Using The Reverse Implement Option (RIO)

!

CAUTION: Avoid injury! Rotating blades are dangerous. Children or bystanders may be injured by runover and rotating blades.

Before backing up, carefully check the area around the machine.

NOTE: Backing up while the mower is engaged is strongly discouraged. The Reverse Implement Option should be used only when operating another attachment or when the operator deems it necessary to reposition the machine with the mower engaged.

1. Stop forward travel.

2. Look behind the machine to be sure there are no bystanders.

Alas, on March 25, 2007, Corey Nicklin didn’t follow the instructions, his three-year-old son Conor Jack Nicklin was behind him, and the warnings came to pass, with fairly gruesome injuries to the boy’s left leg. This is, of course, as a lawsuit filed in St. Clair County court alleges, the fault of John Deere and Home Depot. (Ann Knef, “Home Depot, John Deere named in child’s lawn mower accident suit”, Madison County Record,  http://madisonrecord.com/news/213449-home-depot-john-deere-named-in-childs-lawn-mower-accident-suit" rel="nofollow - Jun. 25 ). The suit alleges that “The subject lawn mower is defectively designed in that it should have been designed in a manner that does not allow for the mower to be operated with its blades moving in reverse.” In other words, because someone might not follow instructions, the rest of us should be deprived of a feature we might want to use. Too, the suit implausibly claims a failure to warn; perhaps the warning label should have specified “Your three-year-old son Conor” rather than just “children.”



Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 5:47pm
We all pay for someone else's stupidity. Thank you lawyers!

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 8:26pm
I noticed that my neighbor's JD mower shuts off the blades when the driver backs up.  Glad my zero turn doesn't do that.


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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
Allis Express participant


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 8:44pm
Like Jay says, we all pay.  It should be, take them out of the gene pool.... and the lawyer along with em....


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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2019 at 9:59pm
Unfortunately for allis Chalmers, they were pioneering PTO driven equipment, so everyone got taught about PTO safety at their expense. Darrel


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 6:03am
Really sad when someone makes a mistake but does not or will not accept fault blaming a machine or a control function and not their own bad judgement. Also bad when a jury awards such bad examples of hysterics based lawsuit to the plaintiff KNOWING and seeing the fault lies with that person and not the machine but the days of $$$$ in courts has been rolling up for a long time, should never have made it to or been allowed to go to a court.


Posted By: Stateliner1
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 9:09pm
New Idea had thousands of cases on corn pickers against them. One of the reasons they dropped them from their line.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 9:57pm

Some of us automatically know that we don't have to reach under a running lawnmower to know that doing so is a sure fire way to lose a body part. (common sense)

In the case of some people though, common sense is a flower that doesn't grow in their garden...


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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 10:09pm
Unfortunately there's no common sense. Just think how bad the future is going to be.


Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 7:15am
One of my old bosses used to say "Common sense is good sense, it's just not very common"


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 12:30pm
The biggest problem with these frivolous lawsuits is the slimy lawyers who file these suits to start with! Start there and work your way down. It really is sad that someone can be so stupid, yet not able to accept responsibility for their own mistakes! Yes, all of our insurance rates are higher because of this crap! 

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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!


Posted By: Ron Eggen
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 3:35pm
This is also why we can't buy a simple gas can with just a simple spout .


Posted By: combinechris
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 11:39am
It's also what happened with New Idea uni-system was so many lawsuits so they quit making it.

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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by Ron Eggen Ron Eggen wrote:

This is also why we can't buy a simple gas can with just a simple spout .
Ron you are so right, I over haul them new but not better cansOuch and I hope the older but truly better cans will not wear out before someone can build a useable can.Cry

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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.




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