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Turbo D2800 Pros/Cons

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Topic: Turbo D2800 Pros/Cons
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Subject: Turbo D2800 Pros/Cons
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2019 at 11:21pm
Okay I’ve been mulling this group of thoughts around for a while and decided to see what everyone else thought.

My tractor is a 1967 Series 1 190XT (has DXT at end of serial number and all decals show it to be a turbo tractor) but it has a 2800 engine in it that has a very sloppy turbo install done. I’m trying to figure out what to do at this point and here are my thoughts.

1. It’s a pretty common practice to turbo a 180 or 185. Both of these units have the D2800 engine and run for many years issue free.

2. I know the 2800 does not utilize an engine mounted oil cooler like the 2900 does. That being said I recall a member on here saying that the dealer he used to work for would turbo 2800’s and use a fluid to air hydraulic cooler. Would one be okay with getting a fluid to air cooler and mounting in front of the radiator? Would this help enough to dissipate the extra heat caused by the turbo?

3. The tractor will not be worked at 100% power. It will run a 5x5 New Holland round bailer and thats what will require the most hp.

4. I’ve heard conflicting stories here. I heard some say that the only difference between the 2800 and 2900 is the oil cooler and turbo. While others say that the pistons, pump, injectors, etc are different.

Bottom line is will I be okay with putting a proper XT manifold on, along with new lines and hoses, and running a turbo with the fluid to air cooler or will I be asking for trouble?

Pic of current situation. Was like that when I got the tractor.



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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500



Replies:
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 1:52pm
first of all - what is the make / model of the turbo and have you measured the turbo boost at full hp?    Do not run a liquid intercooler - XT had enough cooling issues as stock - it will heat your coolant temp..  A OEM manifold will look better - but probably not be any difference in performance.   They do make a finned turbo drain line that will offer some cooling - that is where your hottest oil will be.   Unless someone put in the larger XT inj tips and opened the fuel up - you will need no extra cooling  (or turbo).   

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 6:10pm
Interesting turbo mounting for sure !


Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2019 at 10:10pm
The one on it is a Schwitzer 155710.

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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500



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