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Topic: C question
Posted By: Chuck(ONT)
Subject: C question
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 5:33pm
Can the 5 bolt hubs on a C be used on B finals, and is there any reason not to use the large wheel center as an outside weight on another C?

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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:00pm
Only if it is the style hub with the splined center below. The 5 bolt C hub/shaft are a different configuration than the B splined shaft, and won't fit in a B final drive. I believe the C shaft is a little longer.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:10pm
Given what Larry B Fan said, if you have access to a machine shop anything can be done.

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Posted By: Chuck(ONT)
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:17pm
Thanks, what would that splined hub be from? Did some model C's use them?

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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:23pm
The small splined hub above was used on some B's (most frequently B's with the staight front axle, for some reason) They're not rare, but not common, either.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 7:24pm
B's had a splined shaft and the wheel center fit the spline. Some later ones had the 5 bolt hubs to fit the shaft. 

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Posted By: Brad MI
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2010 at 9:43pm
From left to right: B spline axle (most common on B), B 5 lug axle and C 5 lug axle. The early adjustable front axle B's where sometimes equipped with the spline to lug adapters shown above prior to development of the B lugged axle. 



As  you can see, the C and B axles are not interchangeable.


Posted By: Chuck(ONT)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 5:04am
Thanks, pictures explain it all.

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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2010 at 11:36am
If this makes any sense Chuck. The bolt pattern on a 5 lug B flanged axle or the B splined hub adapter is the same as a C.  The wheel centers are different. Wheels for both the B with the flanged axle and the C are reversable deep dished and have the same AC part number. The B wheel center for the B with the adapter hub is reversable and has a shallow dish. Almost flat. 
      I guess you could use C wheel hubs for wheel weights. They just don't stack up to neat to bolt them on. Find yourself a set of the thicker 4 notch C wheels like used on Cs on steel and use them without weights to add weight.
      All Cs used only the short flanged axle


Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 11:23am

I have used extra C wheel centers as wheel weights on a C, would work on a B with the the 5 bolt hubs as well. Kip



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Posted By: Chuck(ONT)
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 1:55pm
Thanks Kip, I have another C with inner weights and thought about hanging spare centers on the outside. 

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