I'm having trouble locating a replacement gasket for an early style (12bolt) head.

So far everything I can find through the usual suspects is 15 bolt only.

Does any one know of a source for these earlier style head gaskets?

Thanks in advance.

15 bolt should do just fine.

AaronSEIA

The water jacket holes didn't line up quite right and they were really small.

Perhaps I have an oddball block/head or more likely my 15bolt gasket is for something else?

No matter how I install it, I'm literally almost plugging two of the 3 water jackets. The extra 3/8" bolt holes in the gasket encroach on the larger water hole.

Reliance does list a kit on their site, but I called to confirm and they no longer offer them.

Walt's tractors lists a 12bolt, just waiting on a confirmation.

I had initially put the gasket on and torqued everything down and it seeped from both sides as I filled the radiator. Likely an oversight on my part for not coating it with anything.

I'll give it another go before I pay out the nose for another gasket.

Thanks again.

The new gasket does not appear to be metal on both sides with gasket material between?

Been a long time since I worked on one but the old gaskets used to be metal on each side with the progressively smaller water jacket holes to the front and when you had ether the 12 bolt heads or even the early 15 bolt head with the three 3/8" head bolts (vs 7/16" later--- D17?) on the one side, we would take packaging string and put a strand between the metal all along the one side on heads with no head bolts and even the 3/8" bolts. This would seal those heads up nicely. That was at least what the older mechanics at the dealership I had worked at did. But no good if new gaskets are not metal on each side.

Throw that flimsy black gasket in the trash and get a Victor Reinz 3162, as pictured below on my WD engine. BTW the progressively smaller coolant holes are an updated design and serve to cool the head more evenly by restricting coolant flow towards the front of the head, perfectly normal. Copper coat sealant on both sides unless you have block and head planed, then absolutely no sealant.

I've placed my order and hopefully I'll have this buttoned back up for christmas.

 

Ordered the part number listed and this is what I got. As far as I can tell mahle distributes the victors gaskets but this is what I got...looks like a step above my previous gasket but still not thick and metal on both sides like the original.  I coated both sides with copper coat, took my time, and this one started seeping as soon as I started filling the coolant.  It was better than the first but still leaky.   I might have to bite the bullet and kick this thing to the machine shop, or the scrap yard.

I tried the new gasket coated in coppercoat and it suffered the same fate.

Seeping as soon as I filled the radiator.

There's some pitting on the head at the water jackets that I think was letting the water in. I took some JB weld and filled all pitting carefully, then coated (very thinly) the head/block in the blue stuff (like hylomar but permatex brand). Weird sticky stuff indeed, but a thin coat filled the scratches on the block....I think the block scratches are actually grooves from years past machining but they seem questionably deep.

Coated the first gasket in coppercoat and torqued everything down.

This seemed to do the trick at least for now.

I still need to get a new set of points and seal up the oil pan but its moving under its own power again, for the first time in a decade or so.

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Don(MO) wrote: Bill I was in your camp about the good head gaskets but that changed with the last gasket set I got it is not like the set I had shipped in before this set. I'm thinking that both Victor and Fel-Pro have gone to the same Co. for their gaskets. I ran into this same thing on WD45 head gaskets three years ago.

Interestingly enough Don, the overhaul kit I got at the time from Tony (I believe it was Howard brand) had the same cheap gasket in it as well. I was not satisfied with it so I ordered the Victor gasket and got the good one. I cannot remember where I ordered it from though-may have been old stock even back then.