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Topic: Bear 20ft from porch
Posted By: RonnieJones
Subject: Bear 20ft from porch
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 3:07am
So this is not how I want to spend my night. I would rather be sleeping but I have mama bear, yes mom, in a tree 20ft from my porch. 2 Cubs are probably higher up. 
It's not like I can just shew her out of the tree. This is the 3rd time my dog has tree'd her in the past two weeks and he won't calm down until she is gone. I want to get some more rest :/
Thinking about getting in the truck and blowing the horn but I fear it will only make her stay longer. Last time she was there 5hrs but was early morning. This started just hour and half ago and the sun won't be up for another 6hrs atleast. 
I have had to repair two critter fences in the last week and I am just really tired lol. Illegal to shoot no matter what with out a tag. I rather not take that route at all. She is just trying to feed her soon to be annoying cubs. She isn't costing me any real money yet just a little feed every now and then. 
So if anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 7:24am
black bears love mountain dew! and you can usually coax them anywhere with a few cookies! and for what it's worth....black bears are the least aggressive of all the bear breeds. they are very curious.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 7:26am
maybe if to take sum dog poop and place it up in that tree it won't go back there? (after it leaves this time)


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 7:36am
Freind of mine to get his Coon Hound to shut up would throw a pair of cold water on him! He shut up and went back in his dog house! You could invite the bear and her Cubs in for porridge! A Black Bear Sow would be the most aggressive animal to deal with! You may have to resort to Pepper Spraying her!


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 9:52am
 HMMmmm,,thas interesting, Ronnie,,,  Like ole Klinemar says,,I think I would try some pepper spray or better yet some "Hornet Spray" that chit will reach way on out there. Either of those two will convince her to leave and not want to come back,,,!!!! You prolly already know,,but whatever you do,,,Never let yourself or your dog come between her and her cubs,,,,,,,!!!!!


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:08am
Ronn, want her and cubs gone pronto? grab a heavy object and smack that tree as hard as you can, and be ready to run. That bear and cubs will come down so fast you wonb't believe it.


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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:51am
She looks quite comfortable up in that tree!!  Must be settlin' in for a spell!


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:52am
Can't resist; chainsaw . . . . .


Posted By: soggybottomboy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 11:19am
Don't give them porridge. Next thing they will be sleeping in your bed.


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 11:31am
Talk with are Confused Department of Fish and WildlifeConfused, they may be will to move her and family. But if you are getting snow is it not nap time for mamma and babies .


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 11:33am
Around here they really like Subaru's, I guess they can open the doors because of the way the handles are designed.  Once in, opening the door isn't so easy so they just trash the car until somebody comes by and opens the door.  Get yourself a Subaru and leave the door open, after they are in, hop in and drive them over the mountain to someone else's place.  (No advice on how to get them to sit still while you are driving, but can't be much worse then a 2 year old child....)


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Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 12:00pm
LOL some comments are great I needed the humor. 
She tore up one of my pens. Not something I want to do first thing in the morning. Been in the low 30's- high 20's I'll have to go back out this afternoon and fix it but it's patched enough nobody will get out.
Some of you will know what a Catahoula is. Here they call them bear chasers. He has and does get in between her and her cubs. He deals with her first then the cubs. First time I have ever owned one of these breeds and he is amazing to watch. Couldn't ask for a better dog. 
I also enjoy wildlife photography and use to hunt. Now I hunt with a camera instead of a gun. My mom just retired from running campgrounds near Lake Tahoe. Bears are always a problem and every year some idiot decides to get close enough to get a good spanking from one.
Just never had to deal with them in a farm type setting. I am also off grid so any electric fences would have to be solar. Haven't seen anything worth investing in.
20 feet is way to close for me I am not anywhere near as fast as I use to be lol I need at least 50 to be comfortable.
From Thanksgiving until about Christmas is when she really harasses us. Storing up for hibernation.
Just though of something that could be fun. I bet I could set up a mine field of cans attached to string. I could totally set her up for it I think. lol no hiding now with a trail of banging cans. 


Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 12:08pm
Fish and game won't move them from here and besides someone worse may move in.

JohnCo lol last year she was sitting behind the steering wheel in my truck. My dog was outside looking for her. It was quit comical. I still laugh about it.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 12:34pm
Did you get a picture of that? Sure would have been a fun photo...

  This is just a bear cub... and the tree is 15 feet in circumference. We have had an old sow in the tree for 3 days once... the two dogs wouldn't let her down... third night, I took the dogs in and 10 minutes later she was gone and didn't come back visiting for a long while.


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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:50pm
Yeah, after a day or two of the dogs keeping them up the tree, take the dogs inside and she will leave first chance she gets.
I like that idea of a mine field of cans.....just think of the racket that will make!


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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 2:13pm
30-06 ?? have to ask, who was first... you or her ?
dang neighbour , next road over ( 2,000 ft away ) complains about the coyotes den on his land  BUT won't let a pro get rid of them....
seriouly, if F&G won't relocate, you can with 3 slugs of lead.just be sure to bury 6 feet and cover the site. If anyone asks about them..just say..'oh yeah, she and the youngins must have moved on...'

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Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 4:20pm
JC no I didn't it would have been a great video though.

Ted lol thats what I am thinking. I can hear it now she would wake up every dog on the mountain. If the string gets caught up in some bush I think she could easily break it. Might set out the wildlife cam for that one.

jaybmiller- She was first. Actually I think she is the offspring from the first year we were here. She is a lot more destructive. Previous owner was a dope grower so they were not here year around like we are.
F&G will remove them with slugs only if they attack people. She hasn't killed anything yet but it's annoying to see the money you spent for pens just get smashed. Nobody would even question there disappearance, only 5 of us up here year around. 4 are a mile or more away and the one above me is at least 1/4+ mile and a bit of a hermit but he also has 3 large timber wolf mix and 4 poodles. 


Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:40pm
Funny story I remembered about coyote's. 
A friends neighbor when I lived in TN had a problem with them killing his pigs. So he thought he was slick and poisoned one of the dead pigs to take care of the coyote's or at least reduce the population. Well it turns out he didn't think about the whole food chain. Every single scavenger that fed on that pig died. Everything from birds to possums. It turned out to be one giant mess and a whole lot stress worrying about F&G taking notice. Never did it again.


Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:59pm
   Black Bears are some good eatin' ,, I have some recipies I can share with you,


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 9:22pm
I got 1 here that sleeps in the same bed as me! OK that just might be the old gal. Some times it seems like the same difference.


Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 6:26am
All I can say is that is  cute picture.  Sure looks healthy.




Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 6:28am
I have a sign in my house that says " An Old Bear Lives Here with His Honey" !


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 6:31am
Of all the Critters in Michigan I can hunt and shoot I would not  hunt Bear. Too cold to walk around the woods Naked!


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 7:11am
That would be BARE this time of the year... an it would be a might B-B-BRRRR  C-C-chillie.


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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 7:34am
They like to stop and kick the tires at my place every once in a while.  As soon as we start talking price, they always leave.  Cheap sob's....:)






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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 8:21am
Originally posted by alan-nj alan-nj wrote:

They like to stop and kick the tires at my place every once in a while.  As soon as we start talking price, they always leave.  Cheap sob's....:)







must be a bear market

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 8:26am
Oof...Unhappy


Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 12:39pm
LOL

Well my wife isn't happy. While she was in the tree she pooped all over my wife's fire pit. 

Put a remote start on one of those tractors. 
There is some not much bad language here but I think it's pretty funny. 
Remote lawn mower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H_QRy56y3Y



Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 3:09pm
IH tractors in the picture. Those  must be Allis Bears!


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 11:00pm
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
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Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 10:43am
Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

IH tractors in the picture. Those  must be Allis Bears!


everything in my pics is allis....b, 5020, ca.
the farmall cub was hiding.
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 8:08pm
I just thought,,,,,,,,,,you could be real neighborly and go out on the front(?) porch and sit down having a cup a joe and some toast all slathered with honey.  After a few seconds, just grab that cup a joe and go into the house.  That ole bear should come running down and (did I forget to mention,,,,you should have enough chairs for them to sit and enjoy) sit down and start enjoying the toast and honey.  NOW it's up to you,,,,,if you want them gone, you sneak out the back door to the tree and tie the dog there, then you go back into the house and then come out the front door banging pots and pans or shooting a shotgun and yelling,,,,,,,they'll git the hint....
I'd do that in a heart beat,,,,,,,,,,,cept I don't have a front porch,,,,,OR a front door....don't have a back porch either......  Don't have any black bears either....  Sure, somebody else gets to have ALL the fun!!


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Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 8:56am
lol 
Problem is when you give them food it's burned in their mind. They return to the same spot about 10 times. If they don't find food of any kind they won't return. 
I love honey so I am not giving that up. Not even a lick


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 9:18am
i baby sat a black bear cub for a year until the owner could get a place built for him. both me and the old lady...ooooops…..i mean the loving wife hadv a blast with him! he'd ride in the front seat of the pickup with me where ever i went, he loved putting his paw out the wing window and waving it in the air. he also had a fascination about licking my ears. i found out how many people are afraid of bears! lol . he was almost better than a dog! they are very smart too. he loved Mountain Dew, and i'd get him to stand up, back up against my leg for balance, he'd hold the pop bottle in his paws by himself and tip it back to drink, he never spilled a drop! i could lead him anywhere if i forgot the leash with a cookie, he loved cookies! one day he got a sticker poked in one of his paws, he came to my wife for help. as she was pulling it out of his paw, it must have scared him and he clamped his mouth down on her hand, the teeth did puncher her skin and we thought we should go have it looked at by Doc. the cub was so embarrassed after he bit her he hid his head in under her arm. when the Doc asked her what happened? she told him and he just said "yeah sure"! lol had ALOT of fun with him. of course there were the busy bodies that made up stories that it was being mistreated and abused. the local Federal Game Warden was always in contact with us, and knew better of the complaints, he had to check on him once a week during his stay with us. he also knew how we take care of animals and said he never had to worry much.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 9:56am
 Why,,Good Buddy,,,that right there is a heck of a story and I have heard of others adopting wild animals and knowing how you and the Ms take in so many,,, does my heart good,,,!!!Clap I never had any wild animal pets,,,cause one must never forget they ARE wild and can revert pretty easily. I also read where they have really good memory and return to their adopted humans,,years after . Really moving to read that,Clap


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 11:21pm
New nickname,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Papa Bear.....


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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 12:10am
Great story Shameless. 

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Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 6:44am
That would be fun to have hanging around in a non destructive way. I would totally adopt a bear and mountain lion. You would never have to worry about trespassers.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 2:44pm
As my old neighbor (she's dead now) would say,,,,,,,,,,,UFF DA!


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 2:50pm
there was one day, after the owner was able to take it to his home, he had it out exercising, and one day heard a scream outside, he went out and found a real nice shotgun laying on the ground by the corner of a shed, he figgered out that the hunter musta came face to face with his bear! lol we have many pics of the bear here, one is when he's in our kitchen and one of our cats come upstairs, we can tell what the cat is thinking as it's back is all hunched and it's tail frizzed! lol


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 2:52pm
we could also see the wild in it as Joe says. our bear would leave anyone alone, unless they would run away, then he would give chase, but just wanted to play!


Posted By: RonnieJones
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 7:16pm
There was a bear at a boat loading dock at one of the campgrounds mom managed. It had gotten into someones boat. Well it somehow linked that when it walked to the back it rocked. So it made a game out of it. It rocked that boat for over an hour. Fish and game showed up and just watched laughing. 

I haven't seen her around since this post hopefully she is napping for the winter.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 12:30am
Think Ted needs an UFF-DA----  Wink LOL

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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 8:25am
  Well,,,,I'll tell ya'll for sure,,,,we can always rely on ole JC to provide us with some educational documentations of the current subject especially of all them young and nubile,,,,,ummmmmm,,,chit,,I lost my train of thought,,,I'd best go back and study the video,,er,,the lesson a couple more times,,, Ya know to make sure I got it right before I go try to ,,,chit there I go off on a tangent again,,,,,,WinkWink


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 10:37am
Yep, our babes have Rosie buns. Cool

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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2021 at 9:08pm
I think a load of rock salt in maybe a 410 will sting enough to keep her away. If not you can use the three S's on her as a last resort. Shoot, shovel and shut up.

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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2021 at 11:11pm
A couple of my bear encounters.  I sure was gad that grizzly was slower than me!



I'm sure most of you guys are faster than this one!





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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2021 at 3:50am
Originally posted by Gary in da UP Gary in da UP wrote:

   Black Bears are some good eatin' ,, I have some recipies I can share with you,


  Hey Gary,,,,,I just do not know bout eatin bear meat,,,,, Years ago,,,one of my uncles had gone bear huntin and brought home a black bear,,They tried to eat it and gave up and brought it to our house,,? I remember my mother bein so glad to have some meat and started frying up some of that meat,,I remember it being very dark meat,,,and,,,and you talk bout TOUGH,,,you had to chew on that sob a long time and the longer you chewed,,the Bigger the piece of meat meat got,,!! finally had to slip that piece under the table to ole Fido,,,,Wink  Tried smaller and smaller chunks til finally gave up,,,chit even the dang dogs wouldn't eat it,,!!!!LOL


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2021 at 4:04am
i've had bear meat and it was very good and really tender. i guess it's all in how it's cooked Joe? i do know it has to be cooked to a certain temp or for a long time as bear meat usually has parasites and worms in the meat that can transfer over to humans. 


Posted By: Steve A
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2021 at 7:34am
get a few strings of firecrackers.
If she keeps going to the same tree hang a rag soaked in gear lube, diesel, or chlorine in the tree when she is down on the ground and away from it to discourage her.
DNR/Fish and Game will probably live trap them and move them for you.



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