‘95 Chevy turbo diesel, good, bad, who cares?
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Topic: ‘95 Chevy turbo diesel, good, bad, who cares?
Posted By: ddlong
Subject: ‘95 Chevy turbo diesel, good, bad, who cares?
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 12:24pm
I’m looking to trade my ‘99 Suburban for a ‘95 Chevy one ton crew cab long bed w/6.5L turbo diesel. I need to move my WD45, loader and Oxnard blade from Crocker MO to Thompson IA. The diesel has 195,000 miles on it.
An aqaintance offered to haul it for $3/a loaded mile.
Opinions on the turbo diesel? Opinions on the trade? Opinions on the truck?
Looking for any feedback.....
Don in Crocker MO
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 1:29pm
I have both a 95 6.5 turbo diesel and a 99 suburban. The diesel gets better mileage than the Suburban couple MPG and has better low end torque. I usually use the suburban just hold it out of OD and it tows nicely. Unless you have an overly large trailer I just stick with the suburban. I put my WD45 with loader on my car hauler hook it to my suburban and have abou 500 lbs of capacity before I reach the trailer limit. The 6.5 is a good engine but your not going to win any races with it.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 8:01pm
hmm.. if google's right, 500 mile trip so $1500 for someone else to haul.... Chevy has 200,000 on it and I assume you've never driven more than 10 miles in it ? hat if it breaks down ??? cost to fix ?? Your Sub YOU know ,will it make the 500 mile trip ?? Figure out MPG and gas costs...might make sense to have friend haul, you stay warm.
I'd rather drive in a KNOWN truck ,especially in this weather !
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 8:14pm
If you are going to be hauling all the time then the diesel might be a better choice but for just an occasional haul the suburban should be just fine.
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: tomNE
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 10:09pm
those diesels aren't a good investment in more ways then one!
------------- AC from the start of my families farming career till the end!
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Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 11:41pm
what drive train in the sub?
------------- HD3
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 7:30am
Just pay someone to haul it. In their day, that diesel engine was pretty second-rate compared to the Fords and Dodges. If something happens to it on this trip, you will ne thousands in the hole, and still stuck with the truck and still may not have gotten your delivery made.
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Posted By: ddlong
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 2:43pm
The Suburban is a 1/2 ton with the 4L60e. Rated at 6000lbs towing capacity. I’d like to be able to tow in the future. We don’t use the suburban that much any more and not looking to use the diesel much after getting it once it makes a couple of trips to Iowa. The new job provides a service van, so the truck would get even less usage after moving.
Just don’t like hauling something that the hitch, truck are not rated for. The WD45 weighs 3500-4000lbs? The blade I have no idea, but together with the loader has to be pushing over a 1000lbs?
Am I being too paranoid about the suburban, hitch, etc. not being heavy enough?
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 2:52pm
Ok.. here's an example.. Friend borrowed my 16' tractor hauler and pulled a D-14 with HD loader up front and a PTO driven wood chipper on the back, so he had to be maxed out to 7,000#. Trip was 1 1/2 - 2 hrs, as he didn't speed and used good 'back roads' to avoid traffic. Hauled fine behind his newer 1/2 ton Chevy. Oh yeah NOW I find out one rear is 'loaded' on the D-14 ! Jay
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:21pm
you certainly don't need a dually or a diesel for that
------------- HD3
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 3:47pm
Cant help you much. I think I would sleep on this one! Older truck (the diesel) The Chevy experts on here aren't to thrilled about it. Your Suburban might do the job if you can take it easy, and the load was balanced good. Not much help. But if you did want to haul the diesel type truck is certainly a good way to go. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 4:33pm
A WD-45 with full fluid in the rear will weigh 4500+ pounds plus a loader/blade for another 1,000 lbs?? Then, the trailer has to weigh more than 1500 lbs ? You are at 7,000 lbs right there and I'll bet the trailer weighs more than 1500. With two 3500 lbs axles you are maxxed out and you better get the load positioned correctly.
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Posted By: ddlong
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 7:57pm
Dr. Allis, that is exactly why I don’t want to attempt with my Suburban! I’m not going for a 1-2 hr trip. we can normally make this trip in 8 hours in a car. I’ve already hauled the largest enclosed trailer Uhaul has and it was 8-9 hours with the Suburban. I can’t imagine this tractor behind this suburban.
went this afternoon to look at the diesel and was highly disappointed. The topper was toast, leaked like a sieve and was actually coming apart. The guy tells me the first thing he would do is rip it off! I’m thinking why are you waiting?!?
The underside was covered in rust, and the hitch had a lesser weight rating than the 6000lbs on my truck. The diesel started and ran fine. They did do some repairs to it to get the turbo running properly and the PMD was repositioned on the firewall with a good heat sink and supposedly in an airstream to keep cool.
I was thinking about an even trade, but after looking it over and driving it, the only way I would have traded was if he would have paid me money on top of the trade. I got the feeling that wasn’t going to happen so I left it there and came home.
Thanks for the help and insight, I do appreciate it!
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2018 at 8:23pm
Your Wd45 on a low trailer tows much easier than a box trailer. My Wd45 with loader and one set wheel wieghts wiegh in around 4700 lbs my car hauler trailer with 2 3500 lb axles weighs 1400 lbs. it has no wind resistance and tows real easy. My 1/2 ton 99 suburban tows it very well. I usuall keep my speed down to 65 mph when towing. I hold the 4L 60e in drive. They don't last long if you tow in OD. I get around 12 to 13 mpg towing and it has to be a real steep grade to slow me down.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 1:35am
I have a '87 burb with the 6.2 diesel, it' s a 1/2 ton 4x4, it pulled all my grain to town each harvest for many, many years. 300 plus bu. wagons (full). I then bought a '97 GMC 1 ton 4x4 crew cab long box 6.5 turbo diesel. drove it every day to work (70 miles), bought it with 84,000 miles, has over 300,000 miles on it. did replace the tranny (5 spd man) and a clutch, it has pulled my grain wagons for many years too. I love that truck, a nice ride, easy on fuel, and I have pulled a trailer with a IH tractor on it, pulled just fine. no problem of no power. I also have a '98 Chevy ext cab 4x4 with a flatbed, 454 engine with auto. have pulled lots of wagons and trailers with it, but I prefer the GMC for pulling. my old ladys…..ooooops….I mean my loving wifes old burb (1/2 ton) prolly wouldn't pull anything to heavy to long, but have never tried, and i'm real sure she won't let me hook anything up to her new burb! lol
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 9:12am
Dakota Dave wrote:
Your Wd45 on a low trailer tows much easier than a box trailer. My Wd45 with loader and one set wheel wieghts wiegh in around 4700 lbs my car hauler trailer with 2 3500 lb axles weighs 1400 lbs. it has no wind resistance and tows real easy. My 1/2 ton 99 suburban tows it very well. I usuall keep my speed down to 65 mph when towing. I hold the 4L 60e in drive. They don't last long if you tow in OD. I get around 12 to 13 mpg towing and it has to be a real steep grade to slow me down. |
My setup is pretty much the same but mine in a 94 Chevy 1/2 ton 2wd with 5.7 gas and I believe the transmission is the same 4L60e. I also use a car hauler with two 3500lb axels and it pulls the Wd45 just fine if I keep it in drive and go no faster than 60-65 mph.
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2018 at 12:23pm
The suburban will do it. Don't try to tow in overdrive because the TCC will never come in and you'll overheat the trans. Just keep it in drive, don't try to go 75 mph, have working trailer brakes and you'll be fine. Even if the truck you were looking at wasn't a rag, about all a 6.5 is good for is making hot water. They're not much more powerful than a R code 350.
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2018 at 11:58pm
if'n you don't ram rod them diesels, they'll last you a long time!
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