Planter ID Help
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Topic: Planter ID Help
Posted By: Ted J
Subject: Planter ID Help
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 2:49pm
I got this planter and need some parts and also instructions. Anybody know what model it is? TIA   It doesn't have the seed canisters attached. They're in the barn and they're metal... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 7:22am
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Ted, it looks to me like a model 500, comparing it to pictures in Norm's book. Of course I could be all wet. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 6:40pm
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Thanks Mike, but I was on the AGCO site and couldn't even find a 500 model.......... The site shows; 330, 333 Series Pull Type Planter Frame 385 Planter; Pull Type / Tool Bar; 4, 6, 8 And 12 Row 390 Series Pull Type Planter Frame 600 Series Pull Type Planter Frame 600 Series Unit Type Planter 700 Series Unit Type Planter 71 / 72 / 73 / 74 Series Plate Type Planter 77 / 78 / 79 Series Air Type Planter 770 Air Champ Pull Type Planter But no 500. How do I find manuals and or parts if I don't know the model?? Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,ANYBODY?? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 12:19am
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It's a Model 500. I've got ours right down to the small square boxes on the back and the book. And, the fertilizer boxes on the front. It's what we used when I was growing up. I think Captain Dan has one that he acquired awhile back. Want a pic? Send me your number. I just pulled out the operator's manual. It says on the front: 333 series 144" - 176" - 244" Frames So Ted, I'll bet that if you go back and look into the 333 series on the site, you'll probably find what you're looking for.
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 9:12am
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THANKS Jim!! Hard to believe that almost 250 guys have looked at this thread and only 2 responded... Sent you a PM. ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 10:03am
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That's a 500 . I don't think they are on the agcopartsbooks.com as none of the #'s for the frame would come up as in markets frame or marker latches. The last parts book they were listed in was 79001730 in 1970. The book is titled 500 600 tool bar mounted. The units are 50 series with what looks to be standard runner openers. The pic is fuzzy so I can't see if it was a hill drop or not = probably not. Later they called the 51 series units. As on the later 70 series the 71 designated runner and 2 as in 72 designated double disc. The units had two different hoppers - a std or tube metal hopper and a high capacity funnel shaped hopper. The markers both lifted when the planter was raised and then the operator pulled a rope which release a latch pn 700341996 which dealers stocked by the dozens as we called them 'gate post latches'. (similar to the 66/72 gate post pulley on the back of the pull types)
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Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 12:18pm
 Ted, did you get the PM I sent you regarding planter, #52 has disc openers, #51 has runners.This planter is, as others stated already, a 500 planter. The units could be different. ------------- |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 6:59pm
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Ted I was wondering if this is where you hide stuff, till you know what you got. lol Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 10:42pm
Ted do you suppose there is a reason for that just saying. -----> ----------> |
Ted J wrote:Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:04am
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I don't want to respond if I don't know the answer ------------- We the unwilling Led by the unqualified Doing the impossible for the Ungrateful |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 3:10pm
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I have to agree with that Festus!! I've done the same thing when I don't know squat. Apparently not too many guys had these or know anything about them. Joe, yes I got your PM. That pic doesn't help much though. I need to know how things go together and how it all works. It's pretty much in pieces. I did get lucky, there was a manual on ePay for the 500 planter, so I ordered it. Hopefully it'll tell me what I need to know. But I have to say thanks guys, you've sent me in the right direction anyway. If nothing else, trial and error.......it's not like I haven't done that before, the error I mean...  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 6:06pm
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Nothing for me Ted. lol Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: farmerzzz
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 6:39pm
| I bought a 500 planter three years ago and yours looks like mine, except mine has hill drop. Welcome to the nightmare that is agco parts!! I had the same problem with finding parts or parts men that could help. I finally found help at the dealership in Marysville, Mo. |
Posted By: old farmer
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 6:56pm
| The planter looks like the one that was called a wheel track planter. Look at the hitch and how its offset to have tractor run for two rows and other two have tires in front of the units. This was used on plowed ground so you didn’t have to work the ground before planting. There were not a lot of setup this way. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 11:24pm
NOW we're getting somewhere!! 
Coming to Hutch next year? Or Union Grove? See ya there!!
Actually, what I should do is git my butt in gear and go visit Jim Palmer Jr. and see what he's got or can help with. He works at an AGCO dealership near Postville Ia. BUT,,,,,,keep the ideas coming guys!! Maybe somebody can explain why the 500 is not listed in the AGCO books? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 9:20am
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There is one on tractor house. I got a bunch of planter manuals I'll look tonight and see if there is a 500 in the bunch. Don't help with the parts thing though. Sorry I'm learning too. Scott ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 8:41pm
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Ted, I didn't see that you already ordered a manual. If for some reason you don't get it I have one I can send you. ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 4:38pm
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Thanks for the offer Scott. If this one doesn't have what I want, I'll let you know and see what you have. ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: farmerzzz
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 8:32pm
| Ziegler Ag Equip. take only to Albert in parts, ex AC mechanic turned parts man660-582-5150 or 800-589-2426 . I think AGCO don't show parts because they only made it for a short time and there are not a lot out there for parts sales |