Preventing Tractor Theft
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Topic: Preventing Tractor Theft
Posted By: Osage_Orange
Subject: Preventing Tractor Theft
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 10:06pm
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I'm looking for ideas on how to secure my WD and WD45 so someone can't just drive up and winch them onto a trailer and drive away. They are parked in an open shed and easily accesible when someone comes in our driveway. It seems like putting a pipe or large steel bar through the rear wheel openings and securing them to the tractor frame (so wheels cannot turn) would a good idea.
Hopefully, some of you have done this and can offer suggestions.
James
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Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 10:16pm
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Anything that slows down a would-be thief is good. Unless the spot is out of the way & hidden, they'll want to get in & out fast. So your idea of securing it with a chain/bar is good.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 10:33pm
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Put a bar across the open shed thats electrified.?
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 10:53pm
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When you figure out how to stop the criminals from plying their trade , let the world know. For locks keep honest people honest, that is about as far as it goes.
Having home broken into , having my tools stolen from my shop, and even having employees stealing or loosing my tools (yep right someone walked by and stole the hammer drill right on the job you were working on, then week later came back for the cordless saw to match)
having people borrow equipment on job site for their own use without my permission, all the things one has to put up with.
A gate with a locking bar, a motion sencing light hooked to a bell or siren may slow dowd the amature but the pro will be gone with their spoils before anyone knows .
It isn't only the thief but the person he sells the things to who know it is stolen but will buy things for the right price and forget it belonged to someone else first. Both are the SCUM of the earth .
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 11:49pm
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when i was younger, i had a 1968 impale coupe, i installed a 12 volt electric fencer under the hood, connected it to my battery, with a toggle switch under the wheel well, i could leave (and did) my car in the worst part of town and nobody messed with it. had a wooden stick on my key chain to flip the switch on or off. worked very well!
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Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 10:56am
In addition to securing the tractor with a chain, you could also remove the rotor cap from the distributer. Most theives don't carry a rotor cap in their pocket, and the engine won't run without the rotor in place.
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Posted By: Osage_Orange
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 11:08am
I agree, if they are "professionals" and really want it, nothing will stop them. Most of the thievery around here is by "dopers" just looking for something easy to take. I think the Police have a gadget they put on a car tire that prevents the owner from moving it, but don't know how it works. Maybe a larger version could be made that would fit a tractor tire.
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Posted By: macec3(TX)
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 11:13am
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Had a man here in our area who owned a small store. Got burgularized quite often. He got tired of the break-ins and started staying in the store at night with his shotgun. Didn't take long before 2 burgulars broke in. One died in the store and the other one a short time later at the hospital. Problem solved. No more break-ins. Word gets around.
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Posted By: Dave A
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 11:21am
a light on helps and keeping things clean keeps crocks away. They look for things they don't think, people will notice missing. Some salvage dealers look for old sheads to pull things out of. The fear of Lead posioning. Helps also
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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 12:36pm
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I have a pitbull. she is the biggest lover dog, but people that don't know her take one look at her when she comes running at them, and you'd be suprised how many people dive back into their vehicles. My buddy down the road has a sign
"Tresspassers will be violated, survivors will be shot!" I like that one.
I have thought about it many times, and I think if I lived in a more remote area, I would put a large gate up and the end of the driveway. No way in, no way out with your stuff. I live on a county highway and fairly close to the road. Noise from the traffic kind of sucks, but it's normally so busy all times of the day that I don't think anyone would mess with my stuff.
It also wouldn't hurt to go outside every now and then and let a few rounds off for no apparent reason. It's kind of like being the crazy white guy with the confederate flag on his front porch living in the middle of the hood in the big city. No one messes with the old bird because you never know when he's gonna snap.
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Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 12:42pm
A german sheperd that is well trained
a sign that says ... poisonous snakes inside ..
a discreet video camera wouldnt hurt ..or deer cam
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Posted By: Roddo
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 2:46pm
Out of sight, out of mind is a good way to go. If they don't know its there they wont come after it.
Even if you stick a pipe thru the wheels, you may still come out to an engine stripped down to the block with all the expensive bits missing. It just happened to me.
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 3:00pm
"Some salvage dealers look for old sheads to pull things out of. The fear of Lead posioning helps also"
Keep this in mind if you watch a show about 'pickers'.
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 4:53pm
A high quality chain would work better than a pipe since it is easier to lock and harder to cut. I use a short piece of chain on my lawn mower trailer. Won't stop a thief but will slow them up.
I wonder if the 12V fence charger would interfere with the 'puters on newer vehicles? Might want to try that on my truck.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 5:15pm
Closing the shed in is about the best that you can do aside from keeping the place very tidy along with a yard light. One of those trail cams would help if someone actually did back in to load something up. If you don't have a good dog, a pair of geese penned up near the shed will make all sorts of racket when disturbed.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 5:59pm
A friend lost a lot of tools from his shop, had them insured and bought new ones. Has a real nice shop with cabinets and hangers for everything. Painted "power tools" on one of the cabinets with a cheap padlock on it. Inside was a microswitch hooked to a fire siren from an old firehouse. It only was used once. I heard it at 3 in the morning and I'm two miles away. The sheriff also heard it, the guys who set it off spent some time at the cross bars ranch as this was the second time they had paid a visit to that shop and a few others in the area.
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Posted By: RickUP
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 6:28pm
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Put up a sign that simply says, CAMERA. Having a camera set up is optional. Just the word will scramble their brain. Their whole plan gets messy.
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 7:37pm
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coke...that win..284 shuold work real well in this situation.also 6 blasting caps all wired up to detonate at the same time,placed under the seat cushion can do some real damage,i know.most of all you just find someone holding his crotch and talking with a high pitched voice...
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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 8:13pm
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I used to keep a silhoute (sp?) target where my costumers driving up would see it. It had some carefully placed shots from my .45 black powder to make nice big holes. Seemed to work for 8 years now.
JimD
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 9:52pm
While it feels good to know that someone doing bad things gets what they really deserve, indiscriminate traps of a potentially lethal variety aren't a good idea.
What if the person who climbs aboard is your grandchild, or spouse, or sibling, or neighbor? One of these days, we may not be around to care for our machines, and those left to sort our estates won't know.
Another unfortunate reality, is that having a fully enclosed shed doesn't necessarily always grant security as we expect. A friend of mine had a restored Farmall Super-A and an H in his shed. Thieves came in, stole the radiator, the magneto, carbeurator, and two rear tire/wheel assemblies and a few tools. They would have been sooner detected if the shed wasn't closed, locked, and protected from the elements. As it was, they were able to sneak up, break and enter, close the door, set up shop, and go to work, with nobody seeing most of the work. They returned later with a pickup, loaded what they snagged, closed the door, and left. His house was only a hundred yards away, but they observed well enough to know when he went to work, so they knew exactly when their opportunity windows were.
The lesson here, is that ANY 'hunter' knows that the greatest weakness of any quarry, is routine and habit. If you have a regular routine, a thief will observe and learn your routine, and adapt his technique to fit within it. It's when your routine is irregular... unpredictable, and uncertain that you'll send them looking elsewhere.
This is why the first and foremost suspect will be someone who knows you- someone who knows what you have, what you do for a living, where you live, what you drive, etc. This is also why 'Irish Travellers' and the like, who come to offer services like driveway sealing and barn-painting are usually much more of a security threat than they appear.
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