D17D rebuild progress report pt 2
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Topic: D17D rebuild progress report pt 2
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Subject: D17D rebuild progress report pt 2
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 7:57pm
I got "nice" information on my D262 block today. The machine shop was supposed to recut the counter bores for the sleeves. I thought I had a problem on #1 only. They tell me that the rust was what was holding the sleeves up. They were all in bad shape. Then they ask if I have another block. I says no. Well, Midwest cylinder head can resleeve the bores. About $100 per hole. It's pretty much like installing a giant valve seat. At least there is a fix...
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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 8:08pm
Brian - I had to have new deck bushings put in I think 2 cylinders the 226 gas block in my Series IV back in 97 or 98 when I had it overhauled when the bottom of the block was pitted in the o-ring area. Of course my 1st cousin did the machine shop work and I didn't get taken! Good luck getting it fixed right. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Posted By: NEMOSoyBeanBoy
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2010 at 12:02am
Resleeveing these engines is not to hard. Enless your block was under serious pressure or heat. Chances are you can get a master rebuild kit from agkits.com and do it yourself. You will need a way of checking cylinder stand out. Like a backlash/ pinoin depth checker works. If you install a sleeve and cylinder completely and it has an abnormal range of stand out. the worst you have to do is take it to a machine shop for measurement and machine work. You can even check things like that counter bore. Useing plasti-gauge. Lots of little steps you can do to advoid the big bills at the machine shop. But if you do measurements and they come out funny. Don't hesitate to do it a time or 3. And then don't hesitate to ask for help.
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-NEMO Soy Bean Boy-
-Kevin M.-
It isn't what you buy,
Its what you build.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2010 at 6:20am
What did they do ? Go to boring on the couter bores befor burning the block? if thats why you need another block I would need another machine shop. If I was going to bore for new sleeves it would get a serious increase in bore size.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2010 at 6:58am
It was at Arnold's in Ankeny Ia, they're a long standing shop with a good reputation. They hot tanked it and he said he wire brushed all of the rust out of the counter bores and said it would require too much off the deck and the ledge would be too narrow when done. Arnold's recommended sending it to Midwest Cylinder Head in Nevada Ia for them to sleeve the counter bores. I'll find out today what it's going to take to fix. I'm told if I look for another block, find a gas block and just block off the water pump hole in the block.
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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2010 at 10:35am
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Brian, make sure you take them the bare block with nothing you want back attached to it. I could tell you horror stories about my D17 diesel head they worked on.
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