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Topic: more on 'auto-cars'
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: more on 'auto-cars'
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 6:13am
headline from an E-mag I get every day....

The Industry Needs a Foolproof Way to Test Mass-Produced Autonomous Vehicles

OK, here's my suggestion..

Have EVERY engineer and their families get into these vehicles and put them on a busy highway or city. They'll soon realize it wasn't a good idea to push these things !





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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2018 at 7:46am
It was only a matter of time that something would happen,,, that is why they are called 'accidents'. too bad it had to include someone's life.   So maybe the engineers should "step up" and offer some personal involvement... kind of like "I believe in my technology"


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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 5:20pm
I'd sort of like to see them perfect the car before they turn it into an unmanned killing machine with no heart or soul. Maybe build a tailgate that would stay closed and open when you wanted it to just to show me some can do spirit.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2018 at 6:15pm
And how long till some sickko hacks into the system, and uses them to kill?Dead


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2018 at 9:05am
If I had to choose between a texting driver and an auto car.  I might take my chances with the auto car.  Nothing is fool proof and anything made by imperfect man will be imperfect.  I'm sure they will get better in time.  Robotic lawn mowers is where the future is unless they run over the kid next door or someone puppy.  Pinch

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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2018 at 4:53pm
I'm in on the lawn mowers but I hesitate to have an eight year old kid take command of my car while I'm burning asphalt down I75.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2018 at 5:07pm
no real money in robotic lawn mowers as only 1 per house, there's 3 cars per house and minimum of 2 per apartment, hence higher profits !
gotta wonder what the insurance companies will charge though !


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2018 at 5:19pm
Atonimous trucking - is where it is headed - long haul trucks - on highways paid for by them gas taxes paid by the fools who still travel by driving themselves . 
 Call for a cab and a atominous cab shows up , you swipe your credit card and it takes you where you need or want to go . ALL FOR A FEE . 

How bad is the future ? Got a notice from my bank that to deposit  CASH into a account - YOU MUST PRESENT A PICTURE ID  - and use you bank card with a PIN NUMBER to make a CASH deposit . Someone else doing a deposit into another account can not use CASH but must deposit by check or credit card 


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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2018 at 7:11pm
I hadda atonimous lawnmower, years ago.  It was a self propelled push mower, and a rope, tied to an object in the yard...Wink


Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2018 at 10:03pm
It could get iffy suing an uninsured motorist when there aint no motorist to start with.


Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 3:29pm
I would never want an autonomous vehicle. I enjoy driving too much. I guess that sometimes it would be nice to be able to look around at the scenery while driving but I like to be in control. Most of the autonomous vehicles seem to require that the driver must be ready to take over when needed. The biggest risk that I see is how to you keep the driver awake and alert if they have nothing to do? It is not unheard of to have drivers that live in mountainous regions to suffer from road hypnosis after a couple of hours of driving on the straight flat roads of farm country. 

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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 5:38pm
They've been talking about unmanned ocean freighters for years but as far as I know there isn't any yet. If this is such a great idea you've got to ask yourself why not? There is a whole lot more room to miss other traffic at sea and I don't ride in or on them therefore making it a far better idea than on roads or interstates that I and family do spend time on. To me it is a stupid idea and roads are the worst possible place to incorporate it and I think the dead lady from Az. would probably agree with me if she could.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 6:42pm
hmm.
They've been talking about unmanned ocean freighters for years but as far as I know there isn't any yet

didn't one of them supertankes collide with a US warship 1-2 years ago and NOBODY on board felt the 'thunk'?



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 7:23pm

Didn't the Exxon Valdez Captain start that idea back in 1989.

Put his sleepy 3rd mate at the wheel and went off to bed to sober up.

Gary


Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 7:50pm
I forgot about the Flying Dutchman, Valdez, Mary Rose and others. I guess they do have them already but I still aint ready to meet one on I90.


Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 9:42pm
jaymiller, it is said there were people on Titanic that slept throughout the whole shebang. Sometimes you're the last to know.

I meant the Mary Celeste not Mary Rose in the previous post.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 10:45pm
They had that in a TV show. Someone was hacking the cars and driving the cars.
I just don't see how an insurance comp can allow it. I'd almost want it in writing that if this car kills someone I'm not lie able.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2018 at 11:55pm
"I forgot about the Flying Dutchman, Valdez, Mary Rose and others. I guess they do have them already but I still aint ready to meet one on I90. " If you met an autonomous supertanker or freighter on I90, there would definately be something wrong in a major way...,  Wink  LOL


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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 2:05am
Would sort of boggle the mind wouldn't it. Believe it or not I read somewhere on the ever truthful internet that the last sighting of the Flying Dutchman was on Lake Superior.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 7:44am
I know the Edmund Fitzgerald is at the bottom of the lake...
and KNOW I got the Gordy song in my head.....arrgh..
the legend lives on....


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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 9:05am
A long, and I mean long, time ago, I was reading a science/engineering article about the history of aviation developments.  Back in the "day", there was an intense argument over whether a plane should be inherently stable or not.  Those on the one side of the argument thought that an inherently stable plane would be safer, while others contended that if you had to stay busy to keep the plane under control, you were alert, active, and in tune with what was going on so you were a better pilot and safer by being engaged.  This is similar to that argument only taken to the extreme! 


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 5:53pm
The plane needs a one legged seat...

One-Legged Stools – Who Knew?

. . . that Hazard Powder Company employees sat on one-legged stools to keep them from falling asleep while working with dangerous materials?

http://connecticuthistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/HazardPowderCo.jpg" rel="nofollow">Hazard Powder Company gunpowder barrel

Hazard Powder Company gunpowder barrel, Hazardville, Connecticut –  https://chs.org/" rel="nofollow - Connecticut Historical Society

In the mid-nineteenth century,  http://connecticuthistory.org/colonel-augustus-g-hazard-gunpowder-manufacturer-who-knew/" rel="nofollow - Colonel Augustus Hazard  helped establish over 100 mills in an area of  http://connecticuthistory.org/towns-page/enfield/" rel="nofollow - Enfield  that later became known as  http://connecticuthistory.org/powder-hollow-in-hazardville-who-knew/" rel="nofollow - Hazardville . His Hazard Powder Company supplied the gun powder that helped fight the  http://connecticuthistory.org/topics-page/civil-war/" rel="nofollow - Civil War , fuel the California gold rush, and clear a path for the country’s growing network of railway lines.

Working with gun powder was extremely dangerous work and the Hazard Company took numerous precautions to improve the safety of its operations. Workers labored in compartments sectioned off by large stone blast walls in order to limit the damage from any explosions. In addition, they were forbidden from bringing pipes and matches into the workplace and avoided working with iron and steel tools that might accidentally create sparks when struck. Lastly, the workers charged with keeping the powder wet during grinding worked on one-legged stools to keep them from falling asleep on the job.

Despite all of these precautions, explosions remained a regular part of gunpowder production. Over a roughly 80-year span, the Hazard Powder Company experienced more than 60 on-the-job fatalities. One explosion, in January of 1913, destroyed so much of the Hazard Company’s operation that company officials opted to relocate the business to Valley Falls, New York, rather than attempt to rebuild in Enfield.





Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 5:55pm
Oh, and for Jay, WinkWink

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 6:25pm
thanks DIYDave.. now I got it back in my head AGAIN.....
it'll be in there for another 3-4 HOURS....

sigh.



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 6:40pm
I will say that self driving cars surely should make drive by shootings a total breeze and way more accurate.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2018 at 11:08pm
And could argue if you had a few beers.



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