WD45 Hydraulics
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Topic: WD45 Hydraulics
Posted By: braskyku
Subject: WD45 Hydraulics
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 9:51am
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Hello. I have a ’55 WD45 I bought last summer. The feller I bought it from inherited it from his Dad. He thought it had an old Westendorf loader but when I talked to Westendorf they said it was not one of theirs. I was hoping someone could tell me what kind of loader it has on it. I also want to be able to control the 3pt and the loader independently. Does anyone know how to plumb that? Last thing I need to know is how to convert this trip bucket to hydro power. Anything you can tell me would be a big help! Thanks Guys. 
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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 10:04am
| Might be a Kelly. |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 10:07am
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There are several ways to do it some are cheap but not as handy, some are expensive but allow you to raise and lower either end at will. The cheap and easy way is to put a hydraulic rated valve in the line feeding the loader cylinders. When you want to use the hitch the loader is raised to some height, the valve closed and that locks the loader in place and the hitch operates like it should. This works great unless you want to be switching back and forth continuously under operation. That can also be done a couple differant ways. Prince and Gresen both offer a push pull valve that will block one circuit while allowing another to operate. You put in somewhere in reach and switch it on the fly. The most convient and also by far the highest buck way is to seprate the loader hydraulics from the hitch. You run the loader with a separate pump and valve(s) |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 10:21am
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This loader on ebay would also be a good way to go, it has it's own pump, valves and tank. http://cgi.ebay.com/Allis-Chalmers-500-Hydraulic-Loader-/150457570743?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2307f855b7 - http://cgi.ebay.com/Allis-Chalmers-500-Hydraulic-Loader-/150457570743?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2307f855b7 |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 3:33pm
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I did the shut off on the loader for awhile. What a nuisance! I finally bought a 3way ball valve on e-bay. I ran a line from the pump to the valve and then ran lines to the loader and the rear rams. I mounted the valve on the fender so it is very easy to use. Works great. Make sure you get a high pressure valve with the correct threads. Mike ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: braskyku
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 3:55pm
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Thanks for the help guys. I'll look into that.
You wouldn't happen to have instruction on changing out the brake shoes would ya? I have the I&T but it doesn't tell you much.
Thanks again!
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Posted By: Lester
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 4:52pm
| It is a Kelly loader. If I could see where the single cylinder or cylinders are located for the bucket I say the model. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 5:31pm
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Concerning Butch's advice, be careful and think through what you are doing when plumbing a loader and rear lift to run from same pump. There is nothing wrong with what Butch said, however, I have proved that if you don't pay attention, you can hurt yourself. On my WD 45 I had a brush hog on back and a Freeman loader on front, with a valve that will allow me to lift both, or just the rear....stay with me here. I was testing the loader, raised both to near max extension and then shut valve to loader. When I was ready to let everything down I opened front valve again and placed main valve in down position. Now, instead of both going down, hydraulic fluid from rear transfered to front and continued to raise the front lift. I had a jury rigged extension on front lift that went over center and collapsed onto operators seat (seeing what was happening, although not immediately comprehending why, I had just recently exited said seat)! What happened was there was far more weight in the brush hog than the lift, so it went down, forcing the lift up.
Like I said, nothing wrong with what Butch said, just think through what you are doing!
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 9:01pm
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I had a 3 way valve laying around for years. One day I realized what I could do with it. I unhooked the lift arm cylinders from the control valve(CV) and unhooked the loader connection also. I plugged one pressure port on CV and used the other to run my 3 way. The loader is hooked to the front position and the lift arms to the back position. The middle position shuts loader and lift arms off so I can use a remote cylinder hooked up to the original port on the CV. This won't give you 2 way hydraulics for the bucket. If you want everything separate and 2 way cylinders on the loader you would be better off to leave the original set up the way it is for the lift arms and mount a live pump up front for the loader. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |