Saved from the scrapman
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Topic: Saved from the scrapman
Posted By: DSeries4
Subject: Saved from the scrapman
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 8:55pm
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My neighbor heard this thing coming from a mile away and thought it was a 2 cylinder John Deere! http://youtu.be/0v7MxNgebSM" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/0v7MxNgebSM It's a 1959 black bar grille D17. A neighbor a few miles away was going to take it to the scrapyard. They owned it as long as I can remember, but never did any maintenance on it - they were happy as long as it ran. They came by a few days ago and said we can have it for scrap price. 'Nuff said! Drove it home under its own power but she doesn't sound very healthy! It had a loader on it for most of it's life and just did chore work. It has the factory distributor drive power steering which works good and the transmission does NOT jump out of any gears! Haven't decided what to do with it yet. At least it's not going to China!    ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 9:24pm
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That's cool. I've asked the scrap yards around here to call when tractors come in but they never do ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 9:24pm
| "At least it's not going to China". Great job! Thanks for saving another for prosperity.......... |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 11:01pm
| That's a nice find |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 5:31am
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Hey Myron I could use that, or at least some of it for that Series IV I pm'd you about. I probably got something I could trade you, like a 53 WD ! Gary |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 5:52am
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are you STILL smiling ?? Man that's a GREAT save !!! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 5:54am
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Cool. That always makes me feel good. Nice snag. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 8:01am
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DSeries4- Congrats - you'll have that 17 shining like a Diamond in no time! Orangeman
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 8:53am
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If you don't want to fix it up, I do....you've GOTTA fix it up, you don't have anything invested in it so far. Some people have all the luck. CONGRATS!!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 9:16am
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Good find! Another project to keep you out of trouble ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 9:49am
| Good morning. WOW. Congratulations. And a 3Pt. hitch adaptor. How big is that smile on Michael? Would Lloyd Kellog have sold that tractor? Ross. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 10:11am
No, it has decals from the Massey dealer in Meaford. You and Calvin passed by the farm when you delivered the D15 diesel. Michael was happy because we didn't have to pull it home! In first gear, it barely made it up the hill by our farm. I ran back to grab a tractor and chain before I heard it chugging up the hill. I think the engine has a decent knock in it. You know we already have lots of projects :) ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Ross D. wrote:Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 10:33am
It's running better running badly on just two-and-a-half cylinders, than ANY JD sounds running full on!!!  Okay, so... if it's got coolant in the cooling system, and just oil in the pan, then this is probably fixable in oh... prolly under three hours. Sounds like it's trying to hit on one of the two missing, and it doesn't sound like it's got a serious compression leak... so probably worn distributor cam, fouled plugs, bad wires, or something in that realm. And the tires roll!!! And it has a 3-point adapter! Good save! ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Jacob (WI,ND)
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 12:03pm
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Nice Score! Like Dave suggests, I'd check the obvious and if nothing major jumps out at you, give it a good once over and tune up with all the basics. plugs, wires, cap, etc... See where that gets you. Getting it running on all 4 would be a 110% improvement, LOL! I'd almost bet with all the basic maintenance things and some new fluids all around it may just be good to go? Keep us posted! ------------- Jacob Swanson 1920 6-12; 1925,1926 20-35 longfenders; 1925,1926 15-25's; 1927,1929 20-35 shortfenders; C; B's; IB; WC's; WD; WD45 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 7:56pm
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New points, plugs, wires and a muffler that actually works (borrowed from my WD45). Sounds a lot better, but still has a nasty knock to it. Sounds like it is more at the front of the engine. Any thoughts as to what it could be? http://youtu.be/BlrmVD22NRo" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/BlrmVD22NRo" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/BlrmVD22NRo ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 8:11pm
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Check for a loose front crank pulley. |
Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 8:13pm
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x2 on the pulley. link for the video not working. ------------- 54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 8:15pm
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Your latest link says "This video is unavailable." ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 9:32pm
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Try the link now. I changed its status to public. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '63 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 10:31pm
| If you pull the plug wire it should stop knocking. If it is a rod it sounds good enough to just drop the crank, have it turned or built up and turned and you'll be good to go. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 11:33pm
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Have the valves been adjusted? Kind of hard to tell where its coming from. You can take a 3/4 in rubber hose and use it like a stethoscope around the engine to narrow down the source of the knock. Of course, you can also purchase one from a parts store. I used a rubber hose about 3 feet long to diagnose a knock on my sons 73 Super Beetle. We had just installed a dual carb and intake kit on it. After driving it about 5 miles it developed a severe knock. Was coming from cylinder # 3. After pulling the engine out, pulled the head off. There laying in cylinder #3 was what looked like a bearing from a bearing cage. Only way it could have got there was when we pulled the old intake, it must have been laying there and rolled into the cylinder. Ruined the head, jug, and piston. Just gave me an excuse to go big, and put 1750 cc oversized jug/piston kit in it. Has more power and can now make it up steep hills at 55 mph! Lol ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 11:38pm
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Sounds like a great buy! ------------- 10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 11:55am
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I've seen a few Gleaner E engines advertised lately in the $500 range. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 4:21pm
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From the video, (the link works now) the 'knock' sounds loudest when you are on the right side of the engine (from drivers seat). I have to agree, probably the pulley. Sounds better than mine!! Well, at least a lot quieter...  I use to use just a yard stick to 'hear' the engine. You just put it up to your ear and moved the other end around and sure as heck, there's where the noise is coming from. BUT, the stethoscope from HF is well worth the money. Especially at this stage in my life,,,,,,what'd you say??  YOU STOLE that tractor.....   ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 8:49pm
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Good story! Good luck with the tractor. ------------- |