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Topic: perkins engine intake heater not getting power
Posted By: scootmas1972
Subject: perkins engine intake heater not getting power
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 2:33pm
i have a yale forklift with a perkins engine. i replaced the fuel injection pump and its pumping fuel just fine now. however i found that the injection pump is not getting any power. ive checked the fuses and they are good. if any one could help me i would appreciate it because i dont know.



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Posted By: scootmas1972
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 3:00pm
ok. i ran a hot from the battery to the intake heater and rigged it to work but im still not getting it to start. fuel is flowing. 



Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 9:39pm
Give it a shot of either or WD40 into intake - (without the heater) and see if you get smoke or fire .
 Perkins should start above 40 F without aids - unless real low compression - 
What color smoke are you getting when turning it over ?

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Posted By: scootmas1972
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 10:38pm
I have tried ether and wd-40 without the heater. So could there still be air trapped somewhere? I've bled it several times.


Posted By: scootmas1972
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 10:39pm
And im not getting any smoke


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 6:42am
How do you know fuel is flowing? Lines loose, fuel at the nozzles?

When connect power does the pump audibly 'Click' as the solenoid kicks? No smoke is No Fuel.


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 10:12am
On my perkins - when external fuel pump want bad - no fuel to injector pump - no smoke - so either the throttle shut off lever is in wrong position , or no fuel to injectors or pump. 
 It should fire off or try to run on either - when turning over loosen lines one at a time at injector to see if you have fuel pressure . Bleed each line or couple till it starts  

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Posted By: Morten.have
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 3:20pm
If your completely sure that you got fuel, either diesel or start aid, and there is no smoke. Then check your valve lash...


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 5:21pm
I would guess you have fuel TO THE PUMP, but not OUT TO THE INJECTOR... either air trapped, or does it have a fuel shut off rod, or fuel shut off solenoid ??

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 6:29pm
first things first... Model and serial number will help.  Also pics of the injector pump, and fuel system will definitely help...Wink


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 7:48pm
Is the fuel pump in proper time? or off 180 degrees?


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Posted By: scootmas1972
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 2:57pm
i have fuel going to fuel pump to injector lines to intake heater. when i turn it over i get a little bit of white smoke. it acts like it wants to start and then the battery gives out.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 4:08pm
A little bit of white smoke is not enough fuel. May be in time and getting Some fuel but not enough to roll off.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2018 at 6:17pm
Too bad you can't pull it.That would get ya going.Try a rag and blowgun in fuel tank fill hole with lines broke loose.Dont seal it too much....



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