Modern accessories, in old machines.
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Topic: Modern accessories, in old machines.
Posted By: Morten.have
Subject: Modern accessories, in old machines.
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 3:28pm
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I have just mounted a diesel type cabin heater in my dozer. It’s a German eberspächer air to air type so now I can heat up the cabin. What newer modern effects or accessories have you guys installed in your old AC machines ? 
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 3:44pm
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Eberspaecher Climate Control System’s Airtronic air heaters operate like forced air furnaces utilizing the vehicle’s own fuel and power supply to produce heat without idling the vehicle. Heaters operate quietly and cycle through four output levels to provide the optimum temperatures at all times. Units are suitable for a variety of applications but are especially well suited for cab and sleeper heat in class 8 trucks, workshop vehicles, and freight compartments. Airtronic heaters can also be easily combined with one of Eberspaecher’s specially designed controllers for maximum controls and heater function. BENEFITS OF THE ESPAR’S AIRTRONIC AIR HEATER • Economical • Low fuel and power consumption • Integrated control unit • Easy to install and maintain • Built-in self-diagnostics • Highest heat output available in the market • Quick release cover for easy access to components for maintenance • EPA verified and CARB compliant for use anywhere in North America ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 3:46pm
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so this works like a oil furnace or gas furnace in your house, but uses the tractors diesel fuel ? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Morten.have
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 4:20pm
Exactly. It’s werry effective and compact system and mine is thermostat controlled and you can activate it with a text message by the GSM unit. 
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 6:10pm
Wow! that's better'n the propane sunflower heater I use on occasion...
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Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 6:41pm
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Morten. What a great fabrication. So cool. I'm a open air guy on my 16. No cab. However, I will have to put in some bad ass fan action for summer use. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 8:53pm
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modern accessories --12 volt system in place of older 6 volt --alternator in place of generator --LED lights --Electrical gauges instead of mechanical ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2018 at 10:20am
Any problem with gauges Steve? Want to swap mine out with new SW gauges but my system is 24 volt. I was informed by some very knowledgeable forum members that my 1961 16 if using original gauges were likely mechanical and not electrical so the swap out should be fine provided I stick with mechanical gauges. |
steve(ill) wrote:Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 9:24pm
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No Jerry........ I was talking generically... Some use volt meters instead of amp meters. I have removed the mechanical thermo gauge and oil pressure on an old tractor and installed sensors with a wire to a new " gauge" that is basically a voltmeter reading resistance in the sensor.......... Nothing wrong with mechanical gauges. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 5:49am
| Thank you Steve. Understood, |
Posted By: Morten.have
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 6:09am
| I have also just bought new instruments, trans temp, water temp, Amp L/H clutch pressure. Engine oil pressure,Fuel pressure, and a digital hour meter. It’s all 12v but I have a big 24-12v converter activated by my new ignition switch (I needed a switch for the alternator) so all in my cluster gauge group and my wiper system is 12v all lamp and starting and aux is 24v |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 10:14am
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One big one is using sealed and shielded bearings which are pre lubed instead of old felt wick . Alternator from generator is a common one On the HD5 starters going to later style M42 and doing away with he mechanical switch and rod for foot application ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 10:27am
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Clever Morten. |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 10:30am
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Hello Coke Can you tell me what is needed to convert my 16 to an alternator from a generator? An alternator of course. but what else on the shopping list? |
Posted By: Morten.have
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 10:40am
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Jerry all you need is a ignition switch a charge indicator to build up a 3 wire system. And it’s easy to build up for you because your starter motor is near by. The tricky part is to get correct size of v type pully so you get the right RPM on your alternator. I don’t know how to calculate that out and I don’t need to because I mounted a cat altanator from a C15 and I knew that rpm, and by that geared my 16’ into spec. |
Posted By: jerbob
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 1:10pm
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You do make it sound simple Morten. Its working great so not something I am pushed to do but my list of improvements continues to grow here at winter time with little to do on the old girl but plenty of ideas. Thank you Morten. |