Grain Cart Size For 7045 & 8030
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Topic: Grain Cart Size For 7045 & 8030
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Subject: Grain Cart Size For 7045 & 8030
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 4:43pm
What would be the best size of grain carts for both of these tractors?
------------- Thanks & God Bless
Dennis
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 4:56pm
No grain cart is too big for an Allis!
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Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 5:02pm
Got a 500bu one on our 7045. Drawbar pushed in. 9 weights on the front. If we were to go any bigger, would probably have to do some kind of a drawbar support.
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Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 6:22pm
We use a 400bu on on out 75 hp Deutz it is 4 wd and has all the weights on the front of it. We haven't had to run the drawbar up or anything. As of now we have not had any problems out of it.
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Posted By: SCJR
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 6:44pm
We used to have a Kinze 800 on a 7030(doubled the drawbar). Remember when grandpa took the drawbar to the ground when it was on his 220 with 850bu of milo on it.
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 9:40pm
Had our 875 J&M on our 8030 last year it was fine. To play it safe I would be careful of hills.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 10:12pm
also depends on if the cart is just gonna be parked to act as a holding bin, or if you are gonna be in the field meeting the combine. not everyone pulls them thru the fields.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 7:21am
Power Shift trans would be a huge plus on any grain cart.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 7:49am
I would suuuuurrre love to find a 400 - 500 Bu grain cart that wouldn't require a second mortgage.....
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 8:19am
Power shift would be nice.
------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 8:46am
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 9:27am
Always curious on why the guys with big carts don't have a dolly wheel setup hooked to the cart hitch to take weight off the drawbar, like a tractor trailer pulling doubles hitch, guess itd be a pain in mud
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 9:58am
Because you need the weight on the rear wheels of the tractor to get enuff traction to pull it when loaded.
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 10:22am
jeez knowing what our 800 does to our 8550 drawbar I cringe thinking about a cart on a 2wd.
------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 10:26am
DougG wrote:
Always curious on why the guys with big carts don't have a dolly wheel setup hooked to the cart hitch to take weight off the drawbar, like a tractor trailer pulling doubles hitch, guess itd be a pain in mud |
And, you need to be able to back up easily when topping off trucks. A dolly just turned it in to a wagon lol!
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: ryan(IN)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 11:48am
We run a John Deere ( I know not orange but in its defense it was made by United Farm tools lol) 1210a grain cart on our 7040. It has wooden sideboards on it so probably holds closer to 450 than 400 and it works fine. Though there are much better balanced and just overall better carts out there. We did put a set of gleaner combine tires and rims on it last year so that makes up for it being green.
------------- ryan 1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62
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Posted By: John D
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 12:19pm
There is a nice Brent 474 (I think) with scales and tarp near me (not mine) that is available - I can put you in touch with the owner.
------------- 1964 D17 series 3
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 12:32pm
John D wrote:
There is a nice Brent 474 (I think) with scales and tarp near me (not mine) that is available - I can put you in touch with the owner. |
Me? Boy.....that would be a long drive pulling a grain cart.
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 2:30pm
Tbone i bet my old cart is still sitting unused just outside of Traverse City.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 2:32pm
victoryallis wrote:
Tbone i bet my old cart is still sitting unused just outside of Traverse City. |
That I could handle!  Any way you can find out anything about it???
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 3:56pm
Tbone95 wrote:
victoryallis wrote:
Tbone i bet my old cart is still sitting unused just outside of Traverse City. |
That I could handle!  Any way you can find out anything about it??? |
If you don’t hear from me remind me. I don’t think I have his number but could find it on a map easily
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 5:21pm
I don't think there's near enough engineering put into these grain cards. Did you ever stop and figure how much weight went into them? And then there's stopping, uneven ground, speed, tractor to weight ratio, there's no end to it. Seems to me a little less weight and a little more safety would be in order. But I understand trying to save or make a dollar because no one is going to do it for you.
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Posted By: Adam Stratton
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 6:21pm
I pull an eztrail 510 and also have an old a&l 650t (tandem) and have had them on 7045 and 7060 without doing any modifying of anything and got along fine so far. We don't dump on the go but use them in fields or places we can't get the trucks easily. I go slow and we have flat land. You sure know either one is back there!
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2017 at 6:44pm
Neighbor has a 500 bushel on his 140 HP green tractor, 2 wd and duals with fluid in the inners. I have had the combine drive out from under me going up some hills( cause of wheel slip) when there is over 300 bushel on it. I even had to back down one hill this fall because the sand knob was loose and damp from a recent rain. I chase the combine all day and have no other problems than the steeper hills and sandy ground. It works good for loading his 520 bushel gravity wagon, but ya about need a funnel to load the 300 bushel rusty wagon or the 300 bushel pup trailer on his pick up. AND you GOTTA have the auger empty to shut the PTO off or drive anywhere.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 6:38am
LeonR2013 wrote:
I don't think there's near enough engineering put into these grain cards. Did you ever stop and figure how much weight went into them? And then there's stopping, uneven ground, speed, tractor to weight ratio, there's no end to it. Seems to me a little less weight and a little more safety would be in order. But I understand trying to save or make a dollar because no one is going to do it for you. |
If you don’t think a big cart is safe buy a smaller one or don’t fill it all the way. It’s like everything else a little common sense is in order. I highly doubt they need changing
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2017 at 7:33am
Got our 305 on the 800 bu grain cart. Only way to go.
------------- Ya cain't fix stupid.
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