square baler advise
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Topic: square baler advise
Posted By: Josh(NE)
Subject: square baler advise
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 10:38pm
looking for a baler to fill the hay loft with, maybe 200 bales a year. looking at new holland 270 and 275 models. any thought on these balers or others? what do you look at when purchasing a square baler. any help is apprieciated
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Posted By: macec3(TX)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 4:50am
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I have a New Holland 270. It is a fine baler. No complaints. The 270 can really put up a lot of hay in a days time. It is considered a commercial baler. Lot of baler for only 200 bales a year. This is the 3rd New Holland I have owned. They have all been good trouble free balers.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 6:03am
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I have a 270 and it rarely misses a bale. I put up about 1,200 to 1,500 bales per year for the past 5 or 6 years with it and all I've done is grease it and replaced a shear bolt now and then. I wouldn't rank a 270 as a high capacity baler though. Mine has half the pickup teeth a 273 would have. Gotta go pretty slow so you don't start missing hay. It doesn't have the longer 3 knuckle PTO shaft either like the 273. Not familiar with a 275. I think a 276 is higher capacity like a 273.
Either a 270 or a 275 would be plenty for what you are looking to bale. Check the pickup cam for excessive wear. Mine will need some work soon. Check the bale chamber to make sure it isn't rusted out from leaving hay in it when stored. I'm not a baler man and haven't had to dig into mine yet for practice. I'm sure others here can tell you more of what to look for. Billhooks I guess and the chamber knife. Good luck.
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Posted By: tomwestky
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 6:05am
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It all depends on how much money you want to spend. I run an older New Holland 67. It spits out bales (50-75 lbs) as fast as you want to drive it. Check the heavy use bearings, chains and the knotter. The latter is the most important part. You can't go wrong with any New Holland.
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Posted By: jjwo
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 7:19am
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I hate to change colors, but I ran JD for years and if it missed a bale it was a twine fault. Some new springs and restrictor plates was all it ever required.
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Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 7:25am
Have only experience with JD balers. My buddy and I restored a JD 24T. Made great bales as fast as it would digest hay. I hated it, though! It is powered by a 2cyl Wisconsin engine, and if I stalled it hot I couldn't get it to start. Started easily when cold, though. I think a pto-driven 24T would be a good low volume baler. I'd also want one with a bale throwing capability - unless there's a lot of low-cost local labor that enjoys loading hay wagons!! LOL
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Posted By: BobHnwO
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 7:36am
I have a NH 268,gave $350 for it,put $150 into it,makes perfect bales every time.
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Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 8:54am
Last year, I rebuilt the plunger and movable knife on our 1958 J.I. Case 140W wire tie baler. This baler is PTO driven.
Unless you are a good mechanic, I would not recommend this baler because there are very few parts available from Case-IH.
Baled 128 bales of straw two days ago. The old baler did an excellent job. A friend of mine could not believe how tight and heavy weight of the bales.
Got my exercise yesterday hauling them to the barn. Fortunately, I have a Graves hay loader which attaches to the bed of the truck. Unfortunately, the neighbor had not driven a hay truck in 40 years. Made for an interesting ride, for the first fifteen or so bales.
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 9:38am
My dad cursed our JD baler for years until he bought a NH. No issues with the NH.
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 10:51am
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I have a NH 67 and a NH 273 , there both ok balers , but have had PTO clutch problems with both. neither one would make a bale as tight as my brothers AC 303 though. JD 14 t & 24 t were good for small operations also.Depends how wore out they are. Haven't ever heard of any good reports on a IH 46 though.
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Posted By: Clay in MI
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 4:41pm
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It's hard to go wrong with a NH or JD. About 40 years ago it was my job to ride the twine box of Grandpa's IH45. I think I tied more bales than it did!
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Posted By: DouginIL
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 6:22pm
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Any John Deere, from the 14T on up. I had a NH 276 for 2 seasons. That was too long!
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Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 7:28pm
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273 or 275 will do you just fine. my brother-in-law has a jd that has been worked on by an old jd guy and it still misses every 50 bales or so. I grow alfalfa commercially and have a high cap. N H 326 baler. It's 20 years old but has been well maintained and gets new parts before they're a problem. I bale in 45 minutes what you want to bale all year. You can't go wrong with the N H.
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 9:29pm
I have a NH 273 that I swear by. My brother has a JD that he swears at.
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