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Topic: WC - brush hog or sickle mower?
Posted By: Shane H. (Mi)
Subject: WC - brush hog or sickle mower?
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 12:54pm
I'm to the point of needing to redo all the guards and teeth on my New Idea sickle mower. I've considered dumping it for a brush hog; but I'm not too sure what width the ole WC can truly handle 'comfortably'.
 
Penny for your thoughts?
Thanks,
-Shane'r



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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 1:00pm
No other implement is as rough on a tractor as a Brush hog. A sickle mower won't do as a brush hog , but a hog won't do what a sickle can.  My .02 with change.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 1:39pm
A five foot probly won't cover you tracks. A 6 foot might be fine as long as you aren't mowing 8foot tall canary grass or 3 inch scrub trees. It sure is nice to have the hand clutch in a WD or 45 when mowing.

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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 2:06pm
For sure put an aftermarket over-running PTO clutch on your WC so when you get in "trouble" you can simply push the foot clutch in and step on the brakes and the brush hogs inertial energy won't continue to drive the tractor forward.  Mike

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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers


Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 3:05pm
Curious as to how you are raising the bar on a sickle mower on a WC?  Aftermarket hyd or hooked into the cult lift somehow?
AaronSEIA


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 3:42pm
Aren't the two mowers intended to do very different jobs? I guess that my answer would be to own one of each!

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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: M Diesel
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 4:21pm
There are brush hogs and field mowers. Pretty much the same except for blade style.

A field mower is a good thing to have, and will do a nice job in most places. With a field mower up to a 7 foot will probably be okay unless you get the real thick stuff. Generally a 5 will feel too small. I run a 6 and 7 behind a Massey 44 and Farmall MD with no real issues. Even the Super C works in most places. Keep the blades sharp and they sail right along.

Of course one of everything is the real answer! 


Posted By: R Aiken
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by AaronSEIA AaronSEIA wrote:

Curious as to how you are raising the bar on a sickle mower on a WC?  Aftermarket hyd or hooked into the cult lift somehow?
AaronSEIA
Most old New Idea mowers had a mechantical lift, pull the rope to raise and pull agin to lower.


Posted By: R Aiken
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by Shane H. (Mi) Shane H. (Mi) wrote:

I'm to the point of needing to redo all the guards and teeth on my New Idea sickle mower. I've considered dumping it for a brush hog; but I'm not too sure what width the ole WC can truly handle 'comfortably'.
 
Penny for your thoughts?
Thanks,
-Shane'r
I have something you could use, compleat cutter bar less one gard. This looked like new 2 years ago when I junked the rest of the mower. It is getting a little rusty but it is still good. The gards, hold downs and knife are like new.  Also has inter and outer shoe and swathboard. 


Posted By: Shane H. (Mi)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 4:20am

I'm simply mowing pastures. The sickle mower is the way to go; I'd rather bust a pitman arm (wood) than to break my tractor.

Thanks to all!
-Shane'r


Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 7:20am
One of our customers has a "pasture" that grows hood-high weeds every year. No rocks or trees. We mow that with a brush hog. So I guess mowing pastures with a rotary unit (maybe a field mower) just to knock down what the critters won't eat makes sense. But I sure agree that snapping a pitman arm would be cheaper than breaking a WC!

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WC, CA, D14, WD45


Posted By: Hudsonator
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2010 at 9:58pm

I had no trouble with a 6 ft pull-type bush hog and a 28hp WC.  Tall grass or small shrubs - it ate right though them.  Mowed over many an acre with that outfit.

The over-running clutch is a must, otherwise you won't stop when you want to.


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There isn't much a WC can't do.

WD's just do it better.



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