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Topic: D14 Linkage spring
Posted By: squirt239
Subject: D14 Linkage spring
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 7:06pm
Trying to find a picture of where the governor linkage spring connects on the carburetor side of a D14. Any help?



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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 7:38pm
There's a small hole in the rod that connects carb to govenor,closer to the carb ,maybe 4" away. The big hook end goes there, the smaller end goes around a manifold stud. Fun part is to put it on the correct stud ! one way it's full throttle, the right way it works properly.
i can NEVER remember..maybe that's why I have 4 D-14s to see what's right !

Jay



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

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Posted By: squirt239
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2017 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

There's a small hole in the rod that connects carb to govenor,closer to the carb ,maybe 4" away. The big hook end goes there, the smaller end goes around a manifold stud. Fun part is to put it on the correct stud ! one way it's full throttle, the right way it works properly.
i can NEVER remember..maybe that's why I have 4 D-14s to see what's right !

Jay



Thanks Jay!

This one didn't have one, so I guess I will have to figure it out!


Posted By: squirt239
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 8:55am
Does it go to the top or bottom stud?


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 9:04am
whichever it fits without being to stretched.
not being 'smart' but it needs light tension, just enough but not too much...

all my D-14s have different 'springs' and 'mounting positions', sigh....

I've never seen an official, factory fresh picture of the setup either !!

Now THAT would be nice to have posted !!

Jay



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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 10:10am
here's how it is on my 1960 d14




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Posted By: squirt239
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2017 at 11:04am
Awesome! That's what I needed!


Posted By: mhbier
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 4:58pm
In the pic of the "governor rod linkage spring" it shows two springs. I think the inside one the "governor rod linkage spring" and is the outside one the "throttle control lever spring"? I know where the "governor rod linkage spring" connects to the little hole in the governor rod and the bolt but what is the use of the outer spring and where does it connect?


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2024 at 5:47pm
The picture shown is not correct. The spring in the picture is the choke return spring, not the surge spring.  People hook the spring incorrectly when they don't have the governor linkage set correctly. This happens when they go by what somebody said, instead of following the instructions in a service manual.
  The surge spring is a small wire spring with very low pull. It has a shepherd's hook on one end which is hooked up over the top/forward manifold stud. The other end has a tight loop that is to be connected in the hole in the governor rod that goes to the carburetor.
  The choke return spring shown in the picture has only a few coils with a long end and a small loop. The small loop hooks at the choke rod connection at the carburetor. The end near the coils hooks in the hole on the generator bracket. 


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Posted By: mhbier
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2024 at 12:47pm
Thanks, that is very helpful


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2024 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

The picture shown is not correct. The spring in the picture is the choke return spring, not the surge spring.  People hook the spring incorrectly when they don't have the governor linkage set correctly. This happens when they go by what somebody said, instead of following the instructions in a service manual.
  The surge spring is a small wire spring with very low pull. It has a shepherd's hook on one end which is hooked up over the top/forward manifold stud. The other end has a tight loop that is to be connected in the hole in the governor rod that goes to the carburetor.
  The choke return spring shown in the picture has only a few coils with a long end and a small loop. The small loop hooks at the choke rod connection at the carburetor. The end near the coils hooks in the hole on the generator bracket. 


This is where the anti surge spring goes. 




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