Tractor prices seem low all over
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Topic: Tractor prices seem low all over
Posted By: allismanamp
Subject: Tractor prices seem low all over
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 7:11am
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https://www.proxibid.com//asp/Catalog.asp?aid=128903&p=3&sort=0#cnTb" rel="nofollow - https://www.proxibid.com//asp/Catalog.asp?aid=128903&p=3&sort=0#cnTb This auction was way out east I believe but they had g allis selling for 1,000 dollars ? There was complete d 12 allis tractors selling for 1500? 175 allis tractors less than 3,0000 And d 17 series 4 with completed front stack weights for less than 5,000 Did the tractor market drop in half this year or what Or is it a east coast thing here in the mid west those prices would be double if not triple Or where the tractors in that bad of shape and the proxi bid pics too good to be true? ------------- ~AMP~ |
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Posted By: kev/ont
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 7:30am
| There's a sale here in ontario with over 300 allis tractors in it this coming weekend. That will pretty well tell the story of what their precieved value is. At least here in ontario anyway.these are all pretty decent looking machines and it's hard to think there wont be some "deals" to be had with that many machines hitting the market over a two day period. I hope i am wrong though. |
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 7:46am
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Those prices don't sound too low. The G and D12 do I guess. $5,000 would catch just about any D17 S4 in my mind. For that kind of money it better have a loader on it. You want to see soft, go back to WD and WD45. Those have dropped 30-50% in my mind. Even the equipment is off. I think collectors have stopped collecting. It takes as much money to buy a B110 garden tractor as it does a WD and both would be in similar condition. AaronSEIA |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 8:40am
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AC 190 XT ?? from Indiana on AuctionTime last week brought $9500. Had narrow front, no cab, 3 pt., BUT jumped out of gear, needed decals & maybe painted. Pics didn't give good look at tires. For a 190 I'd say it sold very well. Locally on Craigslist Friday was an AC 170 gas with New Idea loader, tires look OK, paint appears good for $5500 OBO. That may be a decent tractor at a decent price. IF I had a couple less D series tractors I'd buy it. Watching the online auctions this spring & summer, 100 and 70xx series seem to be selling well in MHO. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 8:58am
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I don't think they sold low. They sold at what the market has become. The thing is, many of us are comparing these prices to what the market was 6, 8, 10 years ago. Compared to those prices, they are low. I watch the ads everyday, and see a lot of things sit for a long time at what would have been a reasonable to cheap price a few years ago. Today's market is not the same market anymore. ------------- If ignorance is bliss, than happy days are here again. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 9:11am
| That 190 XT,s narrow front made that machine bring that kind of money |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 9:36am
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One thing that could be a factor is how many are still farming ?? Hate to say it but sadly a lot of the 'old timers' aren't around, kids don't want the farm(twothumbers have to WORK for a living??), a lot of small operations being bought into megafarm operations... Then there's the gotta have new or green or the 'other' orange syndrome.... A lot of factor's figure into prices for stuff, even the weather !! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: matador
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 10:44am
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A lot of the tractors in that auction were collectors only- face it, not many commercial farms would want much to do with something like a D17. They want larger and newer. TBH, if I were farming massive acres, I would too. The smaller tractors like that out here are really only used for cultivating, and most farms already own one, so they're not looking for another. That said, there seems to be something weird with the market. I love going to the auctions in the spring- I meet people I haven't seen in ages, maybe pick up something, and get to pass out tons of business cards. Usually there are 5-6 every spring here. This year though, there were only two auctions. Our local auction house still has the advert up on their website from their annual March auction. And the prices at that one were cheap on a lot of things. They were selling $500 trucks and $2500 Case 930s (They were brining $5000 a couple years earlier) I'm not sure what's going on, really.
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 4:18pm
| Generation turn over, baby boomers like me ( I'm 69 ) were big into collecting ten years ago and are now thinking more of down sizing. |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 5:02pm
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Location and condition of the tractor play a big part in the prices. The sale in IL a few years ago, those tractor sold for way more then they were worth for the condition, just had 2 people that wanted them at the time. I said then as I do now that no way set the prices for what tractor were worth. D 19Lp brought $13500.00 at that sale. It was not restored. If you watch in Ok could one of those for $2000.00 This sale is way up east from me. I bought three tractors at the sale with some help from the Pa. people. Tried to buy three more was the runner up on those. Also have to look what cost to restore tractors. when I use to go Polk sales they would have a bunch that someone had been started to restore. I am sure because the person figure out it was going to cost more than it was worth. Also when there was about 7 Allis G at the sale this does not help the prices. but also look at what it cost to rebuild a Motor for G add another $1000.00 to the price then the G's were not that cheap. |
Posted By: Ed&Sherry
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 5:37pm
| at this sale most of the tractors where buy as is ,, they would say it ran,but not start it,,the D21,,190XT were pulling tractors and they started them,,a potatoe "B" brought $2000 the only thing good were the fenders and adjustable front,,I hope I got the buy of the day AC8010 , dead batterys ,sold as is,,just changed auctioneers,,a lot of confusion,,bought it for $9500. put two new batterys in,started right up and power shift,hyd, and air all work |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 7:54pm
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I don't know if it was said above, but 8 dollar plus corn, back a few years ago, artificially inflated everything, now with corn back down around 3 bucks, guys can't afford to spend like they once were. While I do agree with what others said, about those prices NOT being low, the market for antique tractors has returned to about where it should be. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2017 at 8:38pm
| And every year, there are fewer people for whom Allis-Chalmers has a meaning. |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 5:41am
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Everything has it's up's and down ,nothing has changed that way ,the older some of us get is what changes the most . Younger people do not see things the way we do so this also is what happens ,LIKE it or NOT its the way it is . And I agree with Alan ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 6:09am
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Think a lot of people get their ideas on prices on things from places like ebay and CL from what some are ASKING for their tractors.Auctions on the other hand are what people are actually paying for tractors that's the real selling/value price. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 6:56am
Yes! Corn at those prices attracted small timers into corn, a few acres and small tractors could make a nice return. Not so much these last couple years.
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Orange Blood wrote:Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:22am
Agreed and I also think that the occasional high priced tractor sales get remembered while the 100s of others that sell for much less get forgotten. My wife would call it selective memory, LOL That being said the average condition B-C-CA-WC-WD and 45 brings about 2/3 what same tractor would have brought 10 years ago around here. The why part is easy, that's all people are willing to pay,,, |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 9:21am
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I looked at those prices, like any auction, some pieces sold high some low. The super deal I saw was the 110 spreader for $300! What really shocked me is it was a 2 beater spreader, the early ones were equipped with just two beaters but were supposed to be converted to three. This one was never converted and is the only one I have ever seen in existence yet. ------------- An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 11:51am
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Yes those D12's were cheap if they had life I didn't open the link. But on the other hand look at the 220 that sold for $4X,000 that's 5 plus times what it's really worth. Sorry but no way it was worth near that. Like Tbone said corn prices aren't helping things. Sorry but unless they have sentimental value most of those tractors are bringing what they are worth. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 12:23pm
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Ok I checked the link. If I was watching the sale chances are the 8010 and 160 would be Michigan bound. Looks like some stuff sold right on to highish and some deals. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 12:36pm
As mentioned above the prices have been down for a number of years. It really depends on who want's something and how badly. I notice that homeless bums have money for beer, cigarettes and cell phones, go figure ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 2:50pm
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Sale tractors around here used to be made of platinum, no longer as the market flails. Average 170/180 or 175/185 dry up around the $4000 mark, aged Masseys and Fords less than 80 hp even less. The day of the utility tractor bringing top dollar is also gone where a 3020 will only really sell for a few grand in working shape, 40/50 hp other make tractors sell most days at around $3500. Saw a few 100-120hp tractors set and linger for seeming ever on Craigslist, found one sold for $5000 less than ask another was down $4000 and still sitting. Farms as farmers are gaining age as are these old machines, NH, CNH, Deere all running real specials trying to move four to six year old tractors where as old farmers sell off the dealers are hurting as new owners are not farming but recreation users or lease to neighbors. |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 5:58pm
I've noticed that the tractors of the '40's and '50's seem to be selling for less and less,,... I'm upside down with a lot of mine now the tractors that seem to holding or going up in value now are the late '60's and early '70's "muscle" tractors, and it really don't matter what color it is,, but the IH '06's-66's seem kinda higher than most others....just my observations of past online auctions...
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:02pm
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Having these large collections be dispersed back out on the market is most likely going to have more downward pressure on prices too.Are there individuals building big collections now? |
Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 6:22am
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I think a lot has to do with the age of people in general. My dad is 71 and the D17 came out when he was young. He grew up on a WD45 and to him the D17 was the coolest thing ever. So he bought D17s. I grew up on D17s and while I still like them the 8000 series was out when I was little. And I still think they are the coolest thing ever. Our farm operation is bigger now and lately we've sold a couple more common D series tractors that just set and bought 8000 series. I think it just comes down to what people remember being new when we're young. There are less and less people who remember wanting a WD when they were in high school. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 7:52am
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Am I the only one who thinks commodity prices are finally catching up with the tractor market? |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 9:15am
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Just take a good look at the amount that are out there .if you did not sale when they where high ,then you where not ready to sell ,I did sale and not sorry I did .But they where not the every day tractor u could buy anywhere . ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: tractorchucker
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 10:50am
| I think Fred brought up something important. Its hard to say common tractors are cheap because they usually are. if you have rare stuff and theygo cheap that is something else. |