Allis two row planter model?
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Topic: Allis two row planter model?
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Subject: Allis two row planter model?
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:23am
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Can anyone tell me a lil more on this planter? Some of these have tapered seed cans.....smaller on bottom than top. Am i to assume this is pin hitch....prob for a ca or wd? How many different seed plates could these have come with? Mainly just corn and beans? Thanks! 
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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:39am
| Don't know about the seed cans being tapered. I know some have tapered fertilizer and some newer had fiberglass fertilizer |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:50am
This guy has a pile of seed plates...could they all be for this planter? Is that possible?
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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:52am
| If those seed plates are all for this 2 row id imagine that its pretty tough to find that many for it....or arent they to tough to come accross? |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:53am
| Says there is 15 to 20 plates but doesnt know much about it and is unsure if they are all for it. |
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:56am
| I planted many an acre with that exact planter on a WD. Father bought it new in 1950, the drawbar fits into the plates with the hole in and the front bolt is taken out to mount and then put back in between the top and bottom drawbar peices. You let the drawbar swing and remove the two pins in the bail so it can be lifted up and let down. Don't know the model number and made a four row with another planter and a toolbar years latter. |
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:58am
Those are all AC plates and you can get plastic inserts to also use JD plates.
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DakotaSteve wrote:Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 9:16am
| Ok. What seeds do u suppose those plates would all be for? |
Posted By: NICKMI
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 9:46am
| You need different size plate for different size seed or different crops depending on what he wants for them they might be a good deal on epay there 10-20$ a set I've seen both used on back for fertilizer but tapered cone seems to be more common |
Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 9:53am
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Agree with Nick, different size seed needs plates to match the seed size. Looks like corn and bean plates are all there for that planter. I vaguely recall dad planting milo (maize) with this type of planter but I'm not seeing plates for that.
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Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:00am
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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:03am
| Thanks for all the great responses guys! You say all of the Corn and bean plates are there for that planter.... excuse my ignorance but shouldn't there be one size plate for beans and one size plate for corn and there is only two rows so why so many plates?? |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:03am
| Also could a person put that planter on a CA? |
Posted By: NICKMI
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:37am
| It will go on a pin hitch ca all corn seed is not the same size there is also round and flat corn sometimes it says round or flat on bottom of seed plate there are different size plates to match seed size and to maintain planter accuracy id suggest getting a Manuel it explains a lot about these old planters |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:48am
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Good thought on the manual. Well i told the guy id take it. I may have paid to much for it. 500.00. I would love to completely restore it this winter. He said zero rust in the cans...any dark spots on it are from it being oiled up and then a lil dirt on top. I will post a progressive post w pics when i start on it this winter. Should be fun:) |
Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:51am
Seed corn comes in many different sizes. Also, flats and rounds. I'm sure my dad has at least 10 different sets of plates for this planter along with a set of soybean plates. (The soybean plates don't measure individual seeds..just several at once). We always used JD plastic plates with the adapter inserts. The planter was $40 at the auction where my dad bought it. [TUBE]43c1aQGaC5w[/TUBE] |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:56am
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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:57am
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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:57am
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That is the planter I sold. Worked fine. See if you can get a manual. They will have a better explanation of the plates and various settings. AC used that planter for years till it came out with the All Crop Planter then moved to the no till. As stated above the four row planter was two of the same planter with a tool bar for mounting. Can't believe how good a shape it is. Usually the fertilizer tins and even sometimes the seed cans are rusted through along with other rust on the entire unit. I am really surprised at the excellent shape of the planter. I do not know the price but for that good shape, to me, $ 500 does not seem like too much. Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 11:15am
| As for the history of this planter....the fella that owns it said his grandfather bought it brand new. |
Posted By: NICKMI
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 11:28am
| Get those extra seed cans and fert cans if nothing else you can use for parts or sell later markers too |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 11:29am
| Define a "Set of plates" that would be two correct? |
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 11:47am
Some seed corn companies put the plate number on the seed corn bags
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Posted By: NICKMI
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 11:47am
| They have numbers cast into the bottom of plate a set is typically two for a two row |
Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 12:45pm
Here are examples of common sizes of John Deere plastic plates for corn. Seed corn bags will usually suggest which plates to use for IH and Deere planters. Don't usually have Allis plate numbers. Can use the Deere plates in AC planters with adapter. Also notice that each plate is different color for quick ID.
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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 12:48pm
| Very nice collection of plates! |
Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 12:51pm
Not mine. Just found on internet. My dad has more than this though. Here is the adapter to use JD plates on AC planter. Is useful because you can find JD plates anywhere and the corn is marked for the JD plates as well. 
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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 4:44pm
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Usually bean plates have way more seed sells to get up to the population you want. Corn ones also can be different seed sell count, usually 16 or 24 to give more population options. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 7:02pm
| That looks like the wd drawbar hitch, not pin hitch. You take the drawbar bail off, and insert the DB, under that front bolt, then put a regular DB pin in at the back hole. As for the plates, it has been covered pretty well. each seed population, and each size of seed means a different plate. Multiply that by years of farming, using seed of different manufacturers, can yield quite a large collection of plates... |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 7:14pm
| That makes perfect since. I can visualize that mounting on the drawbar when I look at the hitch on the planter. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 7:56pm
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I have a 5 gallon bucket full of plates in the back shed. I think they might be all Allis plates? gonna have to go look now. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 8:23pm
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I used one just like it on a WD - pre Snap Coupler. We planted corn and beans. The boots, tubes or whatever you call them were terribly hard to find back in the 60s. I can imagine now. |
Posted By: Bruce(IA)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 9:46pm
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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:32pm
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Wow a hundred plates. Thats crazy. So id imagine this planter was from the early 50s....what did they use for wheat then? Did the All Crop Drills go back that far? Also....could someone explain to me what a Lister Planter was? |
Posted By: Bruce(IA)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 11:58pm
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This is a lister planter http://s171.photobucket.com/user/broncobustermc/media/8-19-10001-1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  it plows a deep furrow for the row
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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 9:54am
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Was the deep furrow a means to trap moisture? |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 11:42am
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I have at least 100 AC plates,plus a couple of the plates that had all different slots to match up the various seeds and a couple blank plates to grind your own seed slots. |
Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 8:43pm
| Thanks again for all the info. I really enjoy this site. You all are great. |
Posted By: ehuey
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 7:16pm
| Did you ever find a manual, as I'm looking for one as well? |
Posted By: ehuey
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 7:17pm
| Can you tell me what manual I should be looking for? I just bough a plant like this, I would like to lean more about |
Posted By: NICKMI
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2021 at 11:23pm
| Your looking for a rear mounted drill planter Manuel I see there are a few on eBay right now |
Posted By: ehuey
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2021 at 8:06am
| Thank You. I'll look there |