Bought a 190xt, need some help
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Topic: Bought a 190xt, need some help
Posted By: sindarion
Subject: Bought a 190xt, need some help
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 2:23am
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Hi everyone, its my first time on the forum. I've just bought a 190 XT for my 1900 acre farm in the South West of Australia. Its the first tractor with a loader I've ever owned so I'm pretty excited! I paid $5000 Australian dollars for it, and it runs reasonably well, although it can be hard to start when its cold. I have a few questions that I'm hoping some folks around here could answer: How do I tell if its a series III or not? What is better about the series III? I believe its a turbo diesel - should I let it idle for a few minutes before pushing the black button in (when I want to kill the engine)? It seems to want to be double-de-clutched, is it correct to do this or is my gearbox maybe a bit dodgy? Is it OK to change gears while moving? I assume the lever to the right of the steering wheel console is the handbrake, but it does nothing - any ideas what might be wrong with it? What is the maximum RPM I should be running it at? It seems to be quite happy at about 2200 RPM, is it safe to push it a bit higher? It has no three point linkage attachment - did they produce a three point linkage for it? Sorry about the long winded post - I'm pretty new to farming, grew up in the city and then inherited a farm with no machinery save an old Ford 5000. So its all a learning experience for me! Here it is with my dad attempting to teach my 2 month old daughter how to drive:  |
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Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 4:50am
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I can't answerany questions about your 190, but congratulations on the purchase. There are many folks on this forum that know 190's well and will be able to answer your questions when they read them. Have a great day. God Bless.
Nice looking tractor. ------------- When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!! |
Posted By: rich
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 7:08am
| The lever on the right of the wheel is to put your transmisson from high to low range ok to shift this on the go but not the main gear shifter letting the engine run at idle will give it a chance to cool off good luck |
Posted By: Steve Wilson
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 7:52am
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I have a 1968 190XT but can't tell what series you have. If you are talking about the flip up lever on the right side of the steering console above the brake pedals, then yes, that is the parking brake lever. Push the pedals down and flip the lever to hold them down. Mine didn't work either. If you have somebody work the pedals and lever while you track down where the linkage is under the hood you will see the notched rack and pawl for the mechanism. The tip of the pawl was worn on mine and not getting a solid grip in the notches. I took it off and ground the worn tip angle to a nice new edge. Works very well now.
I have to use the glow plugs for 40 seconds or so if it is even a little chilly.
Yes, let it idle for a couple minutes before you turn off the engine. That allows the turbo to cool off and prevents heat damage to the oil seals in the turbo.
DON'T shift the transmission lever while moving. You can only shift between high and low range with the power director while moving.
Mine has the 3 point linkage, I think most of them did.
2200 RPM isn't going to hurt it, that's about where I run mine under a load.
Best of luck,
Steve Wilson
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Posted By: rich
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 8:16am
| sindarion. Sorry. To give you wrong info listen to steve he has a 190 like you I have a 180. Rich |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 9:19am
| Welcome to the forum..........................it looks like you got yourself a really nice tractor |
Posted By: Big Hunter
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 11:46am
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To tell if it's a series 3 look at the web site "tractor data" and see where your serial number hits. (I think tractor data gives the break down)
The only thing I know about off the top of my head that makes the series 3 better id it has 3 1/4 inch axles, a 4 pinion differential, I think the brake disk splines are wider, I think the bull gears are wider, the detent on the shift rail for 3rd and 4th gears was moved to make a more possitive gear engagement, I think some of the transmission gears were a little wider....I don't know I'm having a brain freeze...
Yeah let it idle for a few minutes to cool down, if you shut it down hot the oil thats left in the turbo will "coke" the "coke" will build up if you shut it off hot enough times and block oil from getting in there to lube it when it is running. (thats the way I understand it)
come to a complete stop before shifting gears. maybe adjust your clutch.
and thats all I have to say about that...
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Posted By: sindarion
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2010 at 7:55pm
| Thank you all for your fast replies, you've given me some really good information :) Hopefully I'll be sowing 250 acres of oats with this tractor over the next week, I'm optimistic that there won't be any breakdowns! I've already changed all filters, reconditioned the radiator and changed the oil so I think its ready to go. |
Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 4:52am
| hi sidarion, by your picture you have a series 3,looks pretty neat and tidy.most 190,s sold in australia didnt get 3 point because they were sold for broadarce farming,so instead they came equiped with wide swinging drawbar.they also had heavier rear cast wheel centers then U.S models.Iam at bencubbin W.A so if you need any more help let me know.(i have a 190xt) |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 9:02pm
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Series III started at sn 23001
Series II 19001-22153
The series II and III look identical as far as sheet metal go.
Don't bothr with tractor data on the 190's, it has a lot of incorrect information.
The lever is a brake lock and not a parking lever.
The wheel centers look like the ones I have on a 190XT with 23.1-30 tires.
18.4-34 are the standard size on the 190XT
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