Bell housing seal. Need help!!!
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Topic: Bell housing seal. Need help!!!
Posted By: bluewavecaptain
Subject: Bell housing seal. Need help!!!
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 3:06pm
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Can I get some assistance? We have a 39 RC I'm currently rebuilding the bell housing and transmission on. Just doing a thorough cleaning and all new seals. There's a cork seal that sits behind the throwout bearing that I need to replace. I did some research with mixed results. The shaft has a spiral cut in it to push oil back into the belt pulley gear compartment. Some forums have replaced the seal with a modern press in seal. But a few others wrote that it has to be replaced with cork because of the spiral cut in the shaft. Could you guys help me out? What do I do? Charles Nelson ------------- Charles(Two Rivers,WI) |
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 8:52pm
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If the original cork seal is not available, you can buy a "speedi sleeve" to press over the spiral grooves in the shaft and use a rubber lip seal. http://www.skf.com/group/products/seals/industrial-seals/power-transmission-seals/wear-sleeves/skf-speedi-sleeve/index.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.skf.com/group/products/seals/industrial-seals/power-transmission-seals/wear-sleeves/skf-speedi-sleeve/index.html ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 8:55pm
| There is no reason why a lip type seal won't work. MACK |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 9:11pm
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It won't with a spiral grove cut in the shaft. The grove will EAT the seal up.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 05 May 2017 at 9:50pm
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speedy sleeve or fill in grooves with JB weld or such and sand down smooth
------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: littlemarv
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 6:26am
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Cork worked for the first 76 years..... http://s304.photobucket.com/user/rsommer1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160603_213437921_HDR_zps4c8k4wh2.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- The mechanic always wins. B91131, WC23065, WD89101, CA29479, B1, Early B10, HB212, 416H |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 7:31am
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Installing the lip seal is a little harder than just buying the seal. The old seal base will need to be machined out or purchase a seal holder from a D 10 thru 15. I set up and milled out a few so the D 10 thru 15 rear lip seal would press in. I made a fixture to work on my one rotary mill turn table. I just installed one a couple weeks back on my one C. I did use a speedy sleeve. It gets kinda spendy. |
Posted By: bluewavecaptain
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 7:44pm
Marv, where'd you find the cork seals?! ------------- Charles(Two Rivers,WI) |
littlemarv wrote:Posted By: littlemarv
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 10:20pm
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I just called my local Allis Chalmers dealer. Call Niemuth Implement in Stetsonville first, then Area Equipment in Thorp. They used to stock lots of Allis parts, but unfortunately, the last time I called for something, they had gotten rid of their stock. They can still order parts in, though. They should be able to help. I think the part number is 7020860. If all else fails, contact Norm Meinert here on the forum. ------------- The mechanic always wins. B91131, WC23065, WD89101, CA29479, B1, Early B10, HB212, 416H |
Posted By: Gary in Texas
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 4:09am
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Try Brenda at Sandy Lake Imp, they are a sponsor of this site. check under the parts tab at the top of the page. |
Posted By: bluewavecaptain
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 7:09pm
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I tried reaching out to Norm. I didn't get a response yet. ------------- Charles(Two Rivers,WI) |