Tractor workload & how it relates to reliability.
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Topic: Tractor workload & how it relates to reliability.
Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Subject: Tractor workload & how it relates to reliability.
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 4:45pm
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In general, do members here find their tractors that are given a good workout when used, more or less reliable than the ones that just putt putt around? Let’s consider “worked” to be a 75% load and the machines to have a diesel engine.
Just curious….
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Posted By: Max(ia)
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 5:02pm
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I'd say a tractor is like my old body, if you don't use it you lose it. lol
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Posted By: jaybob
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 5:40pm
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Quote reportedly from Benjamin Franklin
" Sloth, Like rust corrupts more than labor wears"
So I say use the darn things and don't feel a bit bad about using them hard. Remember I did not say "Abuse" them.
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Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 6:01pm
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I'd say maintenance and cleanliness is far more important
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 6:10pm
Cleanliness and maintenance overlap eachother, but most often, cleanliness on the outside isn't nearly as imperative as cleanliness on the inside. Tractors that are run often, are generally going to stay cleaner INSIDE, than those that sit, and of course, any time one sits, corrosion appears. I say run 'em, and give 'em a good workout often.
Of course, this doesn't address OP's question... my answer is that, if you work one hard, and it breaks, it either gets fixed, or parked. A putt-putt may be puttering around for years with parts about-to-break, and nobody ever knows...
Even this, however, doesn't address the answer... Because the real question is "Reliable for WHAT?". If you have a tractor, specifically for shows and parades, but not up to task of fieldwork, and it never sees fieldwork, I guess it's 'reliable'...
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Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 6:24pm
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I frequently find old tractors and the term reliable to be oxymorons --- but I love working them in the fields. Do they always do what they are supposed to do - no, but neither did my kids. Love them too.
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Posted By: GregLawlerMinn
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 7:10pm
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I try to work my rehab project tractors pretty hard initially (after new fluids and some necessary tinkering to get it into running condition) to determine what needs to be fixed. I believe the tractor, once started, needs to get to operating temp for an extended period of time to boil off the condensation that collects in the crankcase, tranny, & PD. Have noticed that the engines, and tractor, performs better when treated this way.
Jim is right on about old tractors and reliable being an oxymoron; seems like no matter how careful one is in diagnosing and fixing problems, there will always be another problem showing up sooner or later.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 8:17pm
Work em. If they set too much things freeze up like hydraulic linkage and shift cables on the newer tractors. My 7050 has been great but my brother's 7030 has little nickel and dime things like that that go wrong as it doesn't get run but a couple times a year. I wouldn't overload any tractor.
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Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 9:02am
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I work with diesel engine OEMs for mining equipment applications - they base engine life and some service intervals on amount of fuel burned instead of operating hours. The engine keeps track of how much fuel it has used - if it is at light load continuously time between overhauls can be extended.
cheers,
Creek
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2010 at 10:17am
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Allis stated that running a tractor with tillage equipment at 5 to 6 MPH was optimal for component life. If it was lugged down to 3 MPH, lifespan deteriorated rapidly.
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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