finally working on 1930 u
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Topic: finally working on 1930 u
Posted By: ryanschott
Subject: finally working on 1930 u
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 7:58pm
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i finally had time to start tearing apart my model u continental motor. took of water pump and go out governor. broke a couple things. the thing i was worried about the most was getting crank out. i took out soft plug in the back and used a brass bar to pound out crank. but there was not enough room to get crank past the lifters and they are frozen. i was going to give up for the day but noticed since i took the bolts out that held the windage tray that the casting that held the lifters had moved. low and behold the whole things casting and lifters come out. so then i was able to get the cam out. now the only thing is to get the valves and guides out. but they are the worse rotted thing in the hole motor. do you guys have any ideas some of the valve heads are rotted off along with the guides. need to find guides and valves and seats that can be made to fit in there. im going to get crank polished and use old pistons and new rings and just hone the cylinders. i do need one piston though. im also going to have to learn how to babbit the rod bearings. will be awesome when i get done. but as you can see its a mess |
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Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:01pm
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Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:06pm
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Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:09pm
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Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:13pm
 this tractor has not ran since 1959 when neighbor borrowed the carb off it. also the first time its been in a barn and thats been over a year now
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Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:14pm
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:30pm
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Looks like you've got a lot of work ahead of you but when it's done you will be a proud man with a great machine. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 8:54pm
| That looks like it's going to be a big undertaking. But should be a gem when finished. Good luck! Darrel |
Posted By: Jacob (WI,ND)
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 9:29pm
Yeah, looks like a big project, but that is what makes it lots of fun!  I like these kind of projects, I'm a sucker for basket cases! Keep us posted please, I need to learn about U's yet, as I don't know very much about them.------------- Jacob Swanson 1920 6-12; 1925,1926 20-35 longfenders; 1925,1926 15-25's; 1927,1929 20-35 shortfenders; C; B's; IB; WC's; WD; WD45 |
Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2017 at 7:57am
| I pulled axles out of rims with giant 200 ton press. And installed new bearings and seals. That was a huge undertaking. But rear end is all good now. Just being a continental motor and no parts is the bad thing.but will be rare when done. Worst part will be valve guides I don't think anyone makes them. Those and the seats are rotted beond hope. So I'm liking for something similar that I can have machined to fit. |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 7:01am
| That is an interesting manifold. Quite different that any of mine. |
Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 7:22am
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http://montesequipment.com/" rel="nofollow - http://montesequipment.com/ Check with these guys, Montes equipment. I am restoring an Oliver 70 with the Continental engine that everywhere else only had the usually general parts for like gaskets but they are able to get me valve guides, bearings in all kinds of under sizes, cam bearings, etc. Worth a shot, they say they specialize just in obsolete Continental. |
Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 12:28pm
| I have had a lot of people ask about the manifold setup it is wild like some kind of after market one no onehas seen one before. |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 6:39pm
| That looks like a Robin manifold. They made gas manifolds for many makes and models. Quite common here in western Canada. |
Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 7:10pm
| Manifold barely says robin I thought rorin'. Cool learned somthing new.I'm also looking for steel front wheels and a piston |
Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 1:04pm
| Motor is all bare now. Beat out valve and guides. Found John deere valves and seats that will match perfect. Going to soon when I sell some stuff. Get the block decked new seats and guides. Turn crank and get rods babbited. I still need one original piston if anyone has one. |
Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2017 at 1:42pm
I just got done rebuilding my water pump which was seized up. I have also rebuilt governor and oil pump.all turn nice and smooth. I will get pics of oil pump and governor. They where rusted solid now nice and smooth inside are nice and clean but out side I left to look like it has never been touched. Crank is going to be done next week. I need one piston and steel front wheels. Also anyone here do a good job babbitting bearings or can tell me easy was to do.
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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 10:02pm
| Babbitt work is not something that I would want to take on, once they are poured they have to be line bored to fit. We have a good place here in Parkville, Mo. that has been doing it for years. |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 10:03pm
| I have seen people try it and the babbitt come apart from not being cleaned properly. |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2017 at 7:10am
| Sheweee, there's no doubt that you're a heck of a lot younger than me. I.m glad you were able to match up the guides and stuff. Really there's no need to get a excited about guides. A machinist can make them for you on a lathe. I've had it done. Hammer down! |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2017 at 9:52am
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Norm Meinert should have valve guides, valves, gaskets and many other parts for your early 'U'. He's in Davis Ill. Ph. 815 865-5372 |
Posted By: ryanschott
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 10:41pm
Here is oil pump and water pump like new working condition 
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