Just Curious
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Topic: Just Curious
Posted By: Dgrader
Subject: Just Curious
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 7:41am
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How many people would like a narrow front 190, 180 or 170? If so what would you pay for one? ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |
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Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 7:43am
| not me! |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 8:07am
2x I debate making my farmall h a wide front end. Too many side hills here. |
shameless (ne) wrote:Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 8:14am
| I didn't grow up in a row crop area, so narrow fronts went out of style years ago, so all that I was ever used to seeing was wide fronts. To me (and of course, only my opinion) narrow fronts just look funny. Kind of like cabs. Up here in my frozen tundra, cabs were a Godsend to people, and that is what I am used to. Open stations on newer tractors just seem like they are missing something. I am certainly not taking anything away from anyone's narrow front or open station, just saying that it's kind of relevant to what a person is used to. Darrel |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 8:47am
| You couldnt give me one. I like C and WD sized narrow fronts But I also like wide fronts. The narrow front tractors were used alot when I was a kid . We cultivated crops and mowed hay with them. we used the wide fronts for all the road work since you didnt have to fight keeping the tractor straight on all the field roads. I didnt even like the narrow front D17s I thought they looked wierd. |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 10:50am
| I'd like to have both a 190 and an XT with a NF and diesel engines just to have them. The series 2 and 3 tractors just look cool with the NF but I wouldn't pay much more then what a wide front tractor is worth. |
Posted By: ACFarmer
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 11:23am
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I'd like a narrow front 190 to go with our narrow front 180. ------------- Making a living farming with and working on Allis Equipment |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 11:24am
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I wouldn't want to use one much. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 12:35pm
One each please. I have a dollar here somewhere.  ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 2:04pm
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It would be cool to have just for the sake of collecting as they are much less common but I don't really care for the look of them on those tractors. I like my narrow front old tractors like my Farmall F-20 and H and letter series like the Allis WD an C but I'm not a fan of the big more square tractors with a narrow front. They don't look right being that large; looks like an elephant on a beach ball as they say. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 2:49pm
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Think an Allis 190XT Narrow Front would be pretty slick on a Snow blower in the winter time, would really turn short. Someone on You tube has an Oliver 1800/1900 series NF on a blower and it was pretty maneuverable. I would not mind owning one. I would take a High Crop 190/ 190XT before a NF though, just because I think the Allis Hi- Crop tractors look cool. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 3:04pm
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Often a narrow front wheel assembly will turn nearly 90 degrees from straight ahead and with some help from the inside rear wheel brake will turn essentially pivoting on the center of the rear axle. That can be handy some places. At the same time the tip over pivot for the front of the tractor is at ground level, where its the front axle pivot bolt for all the wide front tractors which makes it easier to tip a narrow front tractor over from an unbalanced loader load or working sideways on a slope. It can be important to work slopes only up and down the slope, never trying to stay level on the slope and more important with a narrow front than a wide front. That is not to say a wide front won't tip on a steep enough slope but a narrow front will tip sooner. Spreading out the rear wheels if the crop will allow it and/or adding rear wheel weights can help the lateral stability of any tractor. Gerald J. |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 3:14pm
| After running them, I would not want another narrow front. Ride too rough, etc. |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 3:25pm
 but they look cool 
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Posted By: WestAllisWD45
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 4:43pm
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Many moons ago, my future bride thought my One Seventy was sexy. Case closed ! I will always love both. Off subject a bit, but as a surprise for my birthday circa 1980-ish, she dyed her hair orange. Man that was cool. Gotta dig a pic out of the vault somehow. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 5:06pm
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Anyone on here own a 190 or 190XT with the single front tire? |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 7:11pm
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 7:27pm
| Well he will probably pick them up that part is right.... |
Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 8:21pm
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I would love a 180! I want to find a D19 narrow front for a different project. ------------- When someone tells you Nothings Impossible, Tell them to slam a revolving door |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 8:39pm
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I forget names, but who had the 200 and the 6080 nf"s? I would like a 200 nf around the grain bins. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 10:56pm
| I would like one some day. I like the looks of high hp narrow front tractors and like them in the field as well. I have a narrow front 4020,2510 and two 3020's. Went to school with a friend who had a narrow front 190. Local Deere dealer sold five 4320's with narrow fronts and there was a MF 1100 or 1130 used on a neighbors TMR mixer. The narrow front 190's would be out of my price range but have given a little though about if you could use the front steering parts out of a Deere 4020 and adapt them over into the 190. You could even add a rollomatic frontend. Anyone think it would work? Tom |
Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2017 at 11:05pm
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I "think" that it was Matt Folkers that had the NF 200. ------------- How blessed we are by HIS GRACE! |
Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 12:23am
| i'll bet $1. that no company now a days have the tooling for a narrow fronted tractor! |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 12:46am
I'll bet $2!
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Posted By: BLee Mn
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 8:52am
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Andy Gubbels had the beautiful NF 200. Think it was sold on Mecum auction. ------------- Cowboy UP |
Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 10:37am
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That's who it was, Andy! ------------- How blessed we are by HIS GRACE! |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 11:17am
| No interest in doing that to a newer era tractor. I farmed with a narrow front Farmall M. In my opinion, it was a great chore tractor in tight places - not mud though. I did not care for it in row crop work either - plow, disc, harrow, planting, cultivating, mowing, raking, & baling. |
Posted By: js case
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 4:57pm
| That is a picture of my tractor in the yard I took several years ago. It showed up one other time on some site. I don't know where the picture is coming from. I must have posted it somewhere in the past. Just curious where you found that picture. I think those were some of the best looking tractors AC built. |
Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 4:16am
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Js case, that tractor is a beauty. I think they look tough with a nf. Grew up with nf's. It was all we had. You can turn em on a dime and work tight places if you need too. Better than a wide front. Far as bein more dangerous than a wide front, you just need to think about what you're doin and use a little common sense. ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |
Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 10:09am
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 7:54pm
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I grew up on Narrow front WD and WD-45 . Still have one of each. Had a NF D-15 diesel and also have a OneNiney narrow front which doesn't see field work other than pulling a wagon or two. I think they look cool mainly because they are rarely seen. Also a few single fronts in the barn. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 10:01pm
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How about a single front diamond tire holding up the front end of a 7080 with long axles and Mexican Hats spin out duals. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 10:03pm
Oh geez.......
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 11:09pm
Incase the narrow front lovers didn't see these down in "Joe...you dum messed up!" topic... Heres a few other colors...      can't forget a green one with hood ornament...  And heres probably the 200... Dang that one looks sweet!   Another XT... an this one looks TUFF too... Sure like those Firestone tires on them.  ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 4:26am
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Now that's what I'm talkin bout J.C. Thanks. ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 7:15am
don't mind the littler fellers... and a link to a slide show of it. http://s270.photobucket.com/user/ACmodels/slideshow/190%20NF%20and%20CAB" rel="nofollow - http://s270.photobucket.com/user/ACmodels/slideshow/190%20NF%20and%20CAB Armand DeYoung does nice work in creating his models... http://acmodelsofarizona.weebly.com/" rel="nofollow - http://acmodelsofarizona.weebly.com/ ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: macvette
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 6:37pm
| Narrow fronts fit together better when you have limited storage space! Grew up on one, drove others in hilly ground, never had a problem. Just need to pay attention. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 8:02pm
One day I was in a generous mood, I decided to help out some of my less fortunate green friends and haul some tractors for them. The four in the center are all narrow fronts. AW on front, 4020, 630, G, A, all NF and BR hanging on the rear. Two extras because of narrow fronts. I had a lot of fun with the orange trailer.  ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 9:23pm
| If everyone who wanted one had one, no one would want one anymore. Lol |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 7:03am
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I really miss that 200 narrow front! One tractor I shouldn't have sold! Someday I will round up the parts for another I hope! Good post! Andy ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 7:09am
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Anyone have some pictures of some Series 4 D17s with narrow fronts?
------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 7:42am
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NO one is going to tell what they would pay for one . They are sharp looking . ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 7:52am
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There will a beautiful all original OneNinety XT gas, narrow front, snap coupler, PS rear rims on a Canadian auction in July. I originally sent a friend to buy it in SC. Watch Mecums listings ! ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 9:32am
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One's willingness of what to pay is determined on rarity, condition, location, correctness, attitude, and how much they've drank prior. So to ask what some would be willing to pay is a loaded question. A lot of variables involved. ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 9:46am
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My dad's d17 series 4 nfs Ansy   ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 9:46am
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I spelled my name wrong! Andy ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 10:19am
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Go to the post with the spelling error, click on the upper right flag "Post options" and one is edit the post only you can make that edit. Gerald J. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 4:33pm
Great pictures! Love the AC D19 NF and particularly the AC 200 NF. Is the AC 200 NF a custom job, or did AC really offer a factory installed NF for the 200? |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2017 at 9:40pm
| would NOT pay extra for the poor ride! |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2017 at 3:19am
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I really like my D15 NF with power steering.Power steering really makes a NF tractor more usable, use the D15 to run the square baler,pull a disk and other odd jobs.Also have a NF CA and wouldn't trade the NF for a Wide front on it. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2017 at 3:24am
| Nice looking tractors , I did pay $1000 for a n/f assembly for a 170 about 6 years ago, then roadtripped to North Carolina for it, then found one in Fargo Iowa for a XT gave $350 for it, 3 years ago, just like the looks of them they do spin around in a tight circle for sure! |
Posted By: Dgrader
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2017 at 3:46am
 ------------- Ya cain't fix stupid. |