Fordson Mounted Gleaner
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Topic: Fordson Mounted Gleaner
Posted By: JasonB
Subject: Fordson Mounted Gleaner
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 5:37pm
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I went to Dyersville to the National Farm Toy Show last Nov and brought home a 1/64th custom 3D printed model of the Fordson Mounted Gleaner combine. Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many of them have survived? Know AGCO has 1 of them at the Hesston KS plant( or at least they did at one point. Ed Larson has the other one, but not sure how many more are out there? Saw a video on You tube of at least 1 in Europe. I could have swore I have seen one at a local show up in Ontario years ago, way back when still in Grade school. Jason |
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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 6:26pm
| Saw one operate at Gilbert Vusts show 2004 at Portage LaPrarie. |
Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:00pm
| I was standing next to you Mark watching it also. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:49pm
| Nice to know that at least 4 of the Fordson Mounted Gleaners are in existent still. |
Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 8:46pm
| We have one! I know of parts of 3 more here in Ohio they are trying to build 2 complete units |
Posted By: 180Puller
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 9:49pm
This one sold southwest of Ottawa,KS in 2009...It went to Oklahoma..  This one sold just south of Concordia,KS in 2014.. I know that theres one in Montana...There may be 15-20 around..
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Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 10:01pm
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Tom Mitchell still got one? ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 10:22pm
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Wasn't there one at Hutch last summer? ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 10:29pm
| Tom Mitchell has the partials I was talking about. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 10:49pm
I'll bet a million dollars I know who has it. Jim Esbenshade in Colbert, OK. He has one. I bet it's that one, and he repainted it. |
180Puller wrote:Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 12:08am
| I saw one sell on an auction many years ago not far from me, it was quite an attention getter, and when it came time to sell it, they started it and ran it. it didn't bring much, but don't remember now how much. I do know it didn't go to a scraper. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:21am
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Wow! Very nice to see these other Fordson Mounted Gleaner's in existence! Nice to know that a few of them are still out and about. Anyone have any of the old pull type Gleaners? I knew of one Gleaner pull type combine that was in our area, not really sure what became of it though, I do know we pulled it in the local parade for the local AGCO dealer at one time, was pulled by an AGCO Allis 6680 in the parade. I think it was a P-80 Gleaner combine. |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:23am
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I saw a complete 1924 model in a line-up of antique farm machinery about 4 years ago. Gary |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:29am
Gary, was this combine in Ontario Canada? Or down in the US? Could have swore I saw one in grade school up at the Blyth Ontario Steam Show years ago. |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 12:33pm
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Jason It was out on the west coast of USA Gary |
Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 1:07pm
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Gleaner was featured at the 2004 "Gathering of the Orange" at Portage la Prairie, Manitoba, Canada. Got to see lots of old Gleaner & All-Crop combines working including the one that Mark & Lon both mentioned. I don't know who owns that one or how he did not choke to death running it! Kip ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 1:18pm
They may be dusty to run for sure, especially in dry itchy barley, but back in 1923, the farmer would have thought he had the world by the tail running the Fordson Mounted Gleaner when it was new. Much like a farmer today running a Brand New Gleaner S98 with 40F Draper head. I do have the Spec Cast 1/64th Semi Truck & Trailer set from the Manitoba Gathering of the Orange that shows a nice Gleaner harvesting scene on it. Someday hope to see one of these Fordson Mounted Gleaners run in person. Out of curiosity, I know they were specifically designed to mount on the Fordson Tractor, but would they run on another make of tractor? Would be neat to see one on an Allis equivalent. |
Posted By: 180Puller
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 1:19pm
Heres the one in Montana..It may have been in the same family since new...It was on ebay but didn't sell?They still run a Gleaner today..   This may be the one that sold in Kansas in 2009...This was early 80's before it got bought and restored by the Sylvester family..Yes Creston, Jim Esbenshade bought it and several others at the sale....I wasn't standing that far away when he bought them..  This could be Vusts??? I don't really know.. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 1:25pm
Excellent pictures! If that Fordson Mounted Gleaner in Montana is still in the Original Family and they still are running a Gleaner combine today is Very impressive. Thanks for Sharing. |
Posted By: Kip-Utah
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 2:43pm
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As far as I know this was strictly a Fordson only deal. Gleaner and Henry Ford had some type of arrangement. 6 cylinder Ford truck engines were used on some of the early pull behind Gleaners, I also looked at a couple of those at Portage la Prairie. Henry Ford also was a big fan of the Allis-Chalmers All-Crop combines, He owned and operated several of them on his farm...but they were all pulled by his very own Fordson tractors even when could have easily afforded some nice Persian Orange WCs!! ------------- HANSEN'S OLD ORANGE IRON. Showing, Pulling, & Going!! |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 2:57pm
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There is one shown nearly every year at the Indiana State Fair in Indianapolis,,,,,,,, it is a working combine too. And Steve Shide has a working Gleaner Pull type near Remington,,,,,,,, it may be a Model 6?????????????? just not sure the number,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, He bought it from Marion Klutzke at Lafayette a few years back! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 3:31pm
Very informative! When I was at Dyersville IA at the National Toy Show, I picked up some brochures on the old Gleaner pull type combines, and the dealer selling them mentioned to me that the Ford Car dealership across from the AC dealer in his home town sold Gleaners along with Ford, when AC bought Gleaner, the combines moved to the AC dealer, So I have to ask: Did Gleaner Baldwin market and sell the Fordson Mounted Gleaners and the pull type combines through Ford's dealer network at the time? Makes a lot of sense to me if that's the case. Would be interesting to know if any of the Original Gleaner dealers prior to AC buying them out still exist today? I am always interested to learn about Gleaner's dealer network before Allis Chalmers got involved.( Although I am really glad AC bought Gleaner). Interesting about Henry Ford being a big fan of the All-Crop combine. I wonder if there ever was talk about merging AC with Ford, or Ford buying the Gleaner line up to give them a combine? |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:34pm
I thought the same thing Kip when I saw this set up .In the middle of all that going on around you . Would imagine it would be down right miserable if the wind was blowin the wrong direction , heck it would be bad if the wind was blowing the right direction . Back on the farm when I was a youngin my older brother was running the Allcrop 72 harvesting soybeans .The way the wind was blowing it either was blowin in his face or blowing at his back . He would only run the combine one direction and then drive a quarter mile down the field to the other end and only work the combine into the wind .When my dad found out he about came unglued . After there little discussion my brother had to work it both ways . My brother came home that night dirtier than a coal miner . ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: 180Puller
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 6:24pm
Heres one at a museum in California..  The family in Montana thats had a Gleaner-Fordson since 1927 currently run this S-77 Gleaner..I love this picture with a storm off in the distance.. Running a Gleaner-Fordson on a 90-100 degree day would be miserable...The heat would be trapped in there....They also weren't much good in the mud.. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 6:49pm
| Yes, I imagine it would have been miserable to run on a 90 to 100 degree day. You were probably stopping often to avoid over heating the engine or clean the machine. Must have been fun trying to pull that combine out when it did get stuck in the mud. Still it seems like it was ahead of it's time in 1923 compared to the more common thrashing machines at the time. Nice piece of Gleaner's history for sure, and amazing to see so many of them have survived. |
Posted By: 180Puller
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 6:53pm
 They say that this one is at Mt Pleasant,Iowa every year..  This one was restored in 1990 and was for sale in PA some years back for $15,000..  This one was at the 2008 NFM show in Louisville.. My guess is that 20-30 of these still exist..Theres one in Indiana and one in Nebraska..
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Posted By: CALEBnOK
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 7:19pm
| There's one about 10 miles from my house in Cashion oklahoma. Owned since new by the Johnson family that had the AC dealer in kingfisher oklahoma. Its in a barn all original. |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 7:28pm
That is pretty impressive, and nice to see the combine staying in the same family since New. Never realized how many of the Fordson- Gleaner's existed. It seems like the Fordson-Gleaner had a few different paint schemes from the different machines posted on here. The one that was a Louisville, is that the one owned by AGCO? |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 10:19pm
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I would of thought there could be more. My dad talked how there was one in this area and most where not impressed. Mostly because Holt had made a sidehill machine that used 12 to 16 foot cutter bar 20 years before this already. But a machine this big used 4 or more men to run when pulled with up to 32 horses.
That is a great bunch of pictures thank you everyone that shared.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 10:39pm
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I was going to mention the one at the 2008 Lousiville Farm Show, also wondered if it was owned by AGCO. I think it is the only one I have ever seen. Farmers back then would think we are a bunch of wimps, what with the cabs on everything. They would be impressed with the size an capacity though, and the price! ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: macvette
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 10:52pm
| I, too thought there was one at Hutch last year. Listened to a couple of older gentlemen talk about it for a while. I thanked the owner for bringing it, and now can't find the picture I took of it. The danger of getting old, I guess! LOL! |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 11:06pm
Sounds like I need to take a road trip and make some new friends! |
Posted By: 1480man
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 12:01am
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There's a nice restored one at the Bonanzaville USA museum in Fargo ND. As a kid I remember seeing it and it was a mess. I was up there last year and it looks like new now. I think I'll order one of those 3d printed kits, they look kind of neat John
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Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 5:03am
Yes John, I would order one of those 1/64th Fordson Mounted Gleaner kits from Tim Holker, They are very nice! Jason |
Posted By: 180Puller
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 8:54am
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Someone needs to start an owners registry for all Gleaner- Fordsons known to exist....Just the ones mentioned on here would make the start of a nice list and there are more out there.. I keep track of all model T Gleaner SP combines that I run across...I have two myself and have 37 on the list...I also keep track of early model A Gleaner SP combines since I own a 1952 model with the Ford engine.. In 1976 I started keeping track of all UDLX MM tractors in existence..I worked on this list until 1992 and didn't do much for the next 25 years..In the 1976-1992 time period I owned two UDLX's myself...Dorene Wonder from Iowa worked with me on this list from 1982 and continued by herself in to the early 2000's but she passed away in 2016.. Just recently I started on the UDLX list again after Mecums said in 2016 that only 20-30 UDLX MM's are known to exist...Of the 150 tractors built I have serial numbers for 84 of them and know that theres 6-8 more out there because of pictures and info from reliable collectors...I currently have threads about this on Yesterdays Tractors and Smokstak with lots of 1980's pictures.
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Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 10:15am
Very interesting, figures Mecums would under report the number. That is one cool tractor. ------------- 2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50 |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 6:04pm
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Last summer when I was in Ridgeland WA. We went to Schurman's Iron Ranch. There was a Fordson tractor w/ the combine mounted on it. I had never seen one before that. I wish I had taken a picture of it. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 6:24pm
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 1:16am
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I don't remember seeing one at Hutch in 2016, but with the rain and all I may have missed it.
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Posted By: 180Puller
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 8:20am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51BMJOZYUbo
Heres a video of a Fordson-Gleaner in the UK..He has lots of trouble turning..You will have to copy and paste to see it..I made a quick list and came up with 18 known Fordson-Gleaners and theres more out there.
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 8:47am
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Years ago at probably a GOTO I saw one. What I remember most was it had a tall periscope like grill screen, and to start the Fordson tractor you cranked it with a crank extended from the side belt pulley. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 8:55am
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To unload the grain bin on the Fordson -Gleaner, I assume the farmer just backed up the combine and tractor to a wagon and dumped into it? Or did some pull a wagon behind the tractor and combine while harvesting, similar to a corn picker? |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 12:46pm
| Yes, how did the unloader work? There's no auger or conveyor it seems. Is it blown out the spout by a fan? |