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Topic: auction page on facebook
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Subject: auction page on facebook
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 10:21pm
Just to let everyone know, I caught guys bidding for others on that site. So they got pissed called me a liar and booted a few of us. Just a heads up to  the AC guys here, you can be bidding against yourself on there.

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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.



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Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 10:27pm
IL- did you go to that sale in milford' today was a nice trailer in yard.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 10:42pm
No I didnt have been sick as a dog in bed for 3 days.



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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 1:48am
hope yer gittin better


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 4:27am
HUh? What do you mean people bidding for others?

Prices do tend to go high on there


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: albatros_3
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 5:29am
The auction page does have a no nonsense attitude that varies at it's level of enforcement. I have been suspecting that a few folks are running up bids for their friends, but haven't cared enough to investigate.

I've bought a few things off there and really had a great experience with the guys selling on there.


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 6:50am
Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

HUh? What do you mean people bidding for others?

Prices do tend to go high on there


Has different names in various parts of the country, "shill"  bidders, "bid runnning"  "running up the bid"  He is talking about owners, their representatives, sometime the auctioneers them selves who is bid on an item for the sole purpose of running up the price.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 7:02am

It's a Auction !!!!!!!! U will never know who you are bidding against.



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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 7:07am
If the Shill is the high bid then they are stuck with the item right? So I guess it just gets relisted?



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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 10:02am
I just bid what I am willing to give and if that does not get it,it goes on down the road.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 10:18am
I agree with what you guys are saying ,it happens all the time at every auction you go to. But when you catch them at it, and they call you a liar. I dont take to well to being called a liar.

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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 11:33am
It's like that on many of the auctions on there - so you have to watch who is selling as well as the bidder's record of bidding on one persons auction - there is some history logs on there . 
 I buy British Motorcycle parts fairly often and have only run into couple crooks or sleazy individuals - one banned me from his auctions after i called him out on junk head he sent me wit hstripped plug hole and stripped exhaust port threads - then one of his so called other sites I came up banned on also - funny that site owner bid on many of the items offered by first guy - found 6 ties between sites and bidders -   


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Posted By: aras
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 11:56am
Originally posted by ILGLEANER ILGLEANER wrote:

I agree with what you guys are saying ,it happens all the time at every auction you go to. But when you catch them at it, and they call you a liar. I dont take to well to being called a liar.

As well you shouldn't -- glad you called out their game!  


Posted By: thuddylikessmoke
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 12:04pm
I watch a lot of stuff sell on there and can't believe what some of that stuff brings especially when it is on eBay cheaper....


Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2016 at 11:52pm
what auction site are we talking about? :)




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Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.

If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.


Posted By: Brian S(NY)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 5:26pm
LOL I was high ( and only Bidder) on an AC B at a local auction this fall... it was rough I bid $50.00 then someone else apparently Bid and I walked away. the auctioneer came after me and asked what Id pay for the tractor.. I said my last bid. He said no, I walked away. Last I heard he sold it to another guy on this site :) I was just happy to hear it didnt get scrapped... auctioneer had no idea what he was doing.. It wasnt my job to teach him.. I bought a two bottom trip plow for 5.00, an antique dirt scoop scraper for 5.00 ,and two land rollers for 5.00 apeice. He didnt know what they were let alone what they were worth.

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Posted By: wbecker
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 6:40pm
Ya, what auction site are we talking about on Face book?

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Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 9:04pm
Was at a charity gun auction and watched the auction spotter scream out a ghost bidder and got the bid up a good $1,200 -$1,500. One of these sit down deals and the guy doing the real bidding was watching auctioneer vs. the spotter. He dropped out at $2,200....Auctioneer yelled sold to the ghost bidder. AND then went over and told the guy they had another gun exactly like it and would offer to him at his last bid. Poor guy agreed. I tried to catch up with him to let him know but it was packed room and couldn't get over to him......I walked out after that, never went back and still have a sour taste for the Charity that was sponsoring.

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D17 Series 1
Allis B- 1939
Allis B- 1945


Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 9:06pm
Allis Chalmers and Agco free auction page
I have been happy on the items I have sold and I have purchased a couple items also.


Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2016 at 10:44pm
Yes its crazy what things can bring. There is a JD auction also, and a pack of unused 1960's oil cans went for $1300 the other day. There was a 2510 precision toy with no box, ran up around $160, when there are some on eBay with Buy It Now prices well below $100.


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10 various B-series garden tractors, AC Homesteader8, 416 hydro,710 gt, 914, 916H, 917H, 920D, and many misc attachments


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 7:36am
Ive sold on there a while now. Ive had nothing but good experience. The guys that run it seem to have a limited tolerance for drama, and that's good. the only time Ive seen them upset is when people try to deal outside of the listing or on the side. Ive not personally ran into any problems on the items Ive bought there either. I like what they've done, and the prices seem to do well, and Ive yet to run into someone not following thru on paying.


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 7:57am
All is fair in love,war and auctions.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 8:46am


Where U find it is where u buy it many cases ,like any thing else if you do not look other places u do not know what is out there .

So when something sells for real good price its a CRIME !!! all the sudden ,and when u feel u did not get enough for what u sell ,maybe u did not try to sell anywhere else or do some home work on it .

   Some times when someone is in my showroom they ask ,WOW where did u ever find something like that ,I never seen one. U are lucky to have that . I say NO when I seen it , I liked it so I bought it .Luck did not buy it for me .

If u do not pay u do not get. Everyone has things they like and some one else dose not like it .They do not have to like it ,it's not theirs.


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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by David Maddux David Maddux wrote:

I just bid what I am willing to give and if that does not get it,it goes on down the road.

Dave, I agree with your quote. Can't go wrong with that motive. 


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by oldorangeiron oldorangeiron wrote:

Ive sold on there a while now. Ive had nothing but good experience. The guys that run it seem to have a limited tolerance for drama, and that's good. the only time Ive seen them upset is when people try to deal outside of the listing or on the side. Ive not personally ran into any problems on the items Ive bought there either. I like what they've done, and the prices seem to do well, and Ive yet to run into someone not following thru on paying.
I agree with that, I sold a moisture tester on there for 500. And 1 sold the week before for 130 on ebay.  The people that bid on that site , don't seem to know what things normally bring. They see it , and they are  going to buy it.


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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 5:43pm

Not everything is for everyone !!!!!

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:


Not everything is for everyone !!!!!

Fred,you're wise beyond yer years!


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 8:41pm
Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:


Not everything is for everyone !!!!!

Fred,you're wise beyond yer years!

I don't know about that Steve he is getting up there ya no

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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 11:16pm
A couple weeks ago I posted "It's all my fault" about a buddy buying an Oliver 88 in MN for $3000.  Since then he has been in touch with the seller and picked up the tractor yesterday. First off the seller told him he was charging $50 per week starting the day after the auction.  Ron told him that according to the Big Iron rules he could only charge $25 after two weeks.  Seller said "I don't care, $50."  Ron bought a better pickup to haul the tractor, I don't think that's my fault, by the way, and left for MN on Monday.  Picked up the tractor, of course the battery was dead.  The seller at first said "Not my problem." but then hooked up a battery charger. The tractor is so wide that it barely fit on the trailer and the seller didn't help load it or offer to help narrow the wheels, but as Ron was winching it on came out and said come in the shop.  Ron went in the shop.  The seller was sitting in a chair with a bunch of manuals for the tractor on his lap.  He was near tears, pissed that the tractor sold so cheap.  Ron apologized to him for the way things went but told him he bid on it in good faith and had no idea if he would get it with his last bid.  The seller admitted it wasn't Ron's fault but told him he had put hundreds of hours and dollars into the tractor and regretted putting it on the auction.  Ron is a retired ER Doc and told me he was concerned for the seller as he is very overweight and doesn't look healthy for a mid 70's man.  He gave him the books and told him he better get on the road before the storm arrives.  Ron finished chaining down and left.
Now I'm really feeling bad that I even mentioned the auction, but I guess if Ron hadn't bid on the tractor it might have sold for even less.  A few years ago I bought my 8030 at a friends auction and was going to quit bidding when Ron told me he would put a $1000 in toward it (he was still working then).  I offered to pay him back but he wouldn't accept it.  Maybe I'll try to talk him into sending the Oliver seller the money. 
Always appreciate feedback from you all.


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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2016 at 11:27pm
John,the guy put the Oliver in an auction of his own free will.Old enough to know that there's no guarantee at auctions.Where was his reserve? Not allowed?His action had consequenses.No responsibility of Ron's or yours.Things are what they are.Let it ride.


Posted By: ironac
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 1:08am
Your reserve is supposed to be what you set the starting bid at. Says in the rules to start it at the lowest price you would be willing to sell it for. I've seen guys set the starting bid at a very reasonable price and then get a couple admins saying that there starting bid is to high. Go figure.


Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:02am
I was one of those people you speak of Ironac. Told me that on some Rotobalers I posted on there. Guess what I sold them for more than my starting bid to the same guy. Prices vary through out the US. They think if it won't bring that kinda money in their 50 mile radius from home it ain't worth it. I argued with them for quite a while on that one. In the end they said we will let it slide this time. Really pissed me off on that one.

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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:25am
Originally posted by JohnCO JohnCO wrote:

A couple weeks ago I posted "It's all my fault" about a buddy buying an Oliver 88 in MN for $3000.  Since then he has been in touch with the seller and picked up the tractor yesterday. First off the seller told him he was charging $50 per week starting the day after the auction.  Ron told him that according to the Big Iron rules he could only charge $25 after two weeks.  Seller said "I don't care, $50."  Ron bought a better pickup to haul the tractor, I don't think that's my fault, by the way, and left for MN on Monday.  Picked up the tractor, of course the battery was dead.  The seller at first said "Not my problem." but then hooked up a battery charger. The tractor is so wide that it barely fit on the trailer and the seller didn't help load it or offer to help narrow the wheels, but as Ron was winching it on came out and said come in the shop.  Ron went in the shop.  The seller was sitting in a chair with a bunch of manuals for the tractor on his lap.  He was near tears, pissed that the tractor sold so cheap.  Ron apologized to him for the way things went but told him he bid on it in good faith and had no idea if he would get it with his last bid.  The seller admitted it wasn't Ron's fault but told him he had put hundreds of hours and dollars into the tractor and regretted putting it on the auction.  Ron is a retired ER Doc and told me he was concerned for the seller as he is very overweight and doesn't look healthy for a mid 70's man.  He gave him the books and told him he better get on the road before the storm arrives.  Ron finished chaining down and left.
Now I'm really feeling bad that I even mentioned the auction, but I guess if Ron hadn't bid on the tractor it might have sold for even less.  A few years ago I bought my 8030 at a friends auction and was going to quit bidding when Ron told me he would put a $1000 in toward it (he was still working then).  I offered to pay him back but he wouldn't accept it.  Maybe I'll try to talk him into sending the Oliver seller the money. 
Always appreciate feedback from you all.


First off $3000 for an Oliver 88 is REAL GOOD money for it,I have a couple 1550 Olivers
I paid 1500 and 2000 for so he got a good price.Then the guy wanted to be a pain and not help load etc,can't see where he deserves any more money that's for sure.He's the one that offered it up to auction you fellows sure don't have anything to feel bad about.


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:42am
Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:



First off $3000 for an Oliver 88 is REAL GOOD money for it,



In this day and age I agree,

 LOTS of would be sellers having remorse for not selling out  several years ago. I have been watching some Mecum auctions on the TV and it makes me sad to see the fully restored  but common 40s-50s tractors selling for spit, some less than  the price of the new tires they wear and color makes little difference.  The real money is being spent on 60s-80s "muscle" tractors.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:05am


   I am not sorry for selling off some things when the market was peaking , its always a chance ,u can to wait to long sometimes when things are on the high wave , if u are making money ,U do it,If that is what u want to do.   

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:17am
The information age has made the price curves in collectables well known and thus pretty much predictable. The truly rare and hard to find items will retain value but the stuff you see for sale every day aint far from tanking when you see lots of them for sale and prices leveling off.




Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:21am
I don't want to stir the pot but the auction page is mine. There are two sides to every story. The issue of running bids was brought up and was looked in to but ILGLEANER wasn't happy with the answer. Two guys who know each other bought from each other. It hasn't been relisted. One bought it, the other wanted it for a Christmas gift and when guy #1 listed it on the page guy #2 bid like everyone else and bought it. I've repeatedly said this but it turned in to me and my page being bashed all over the net. I keep a clean page and I do my best along with my admins to keep it on the up and up. We have in the past caught a few buddy bidders doing wrong and they're gone. I don't tolerate it. But all parties were talked to and the issue was dropped...At least on my end. Again I don't want to stir the pot but I wanted my side to be out there too.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 11:32am
There is no NEW news here. Been going on forever.

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 11:39am
Originally posted by BennyLumpkin BennyLumpkin wrote:

I don't want to stir the pot but the auction page is mine. There are two sides to every story. The issue of running bids was brought up and was looked in to but ILGLEANER wasn't happy with the answer. Two guys who know each other bought from each other. It hasn't been relisted. One bought it, the other wanted it for a Christmas gift and when guy #1 listed it on the page guy #2 bid like everyone else and bought it. I've repeatedly said this but it turned in to me and my page being bashed all over the net. I keep a clean page and I do my best along with my admins to keep it on the up and up. We have in the past caught a few buddy bidders doing wrong and they're gone. I don't tolerate it. But all parties were talked to and the issue was dropped...At least on my end. Again I don't want to stir the pot but I wanted my side to be out there too.


Well one thing for sure no one can make me or anyone else bid more than I/they want for something regardless of who else is bidding.Just like some consignment sales sure the sellers have some people there pushing the price up,doesn't bother me I have my stopping point and that's the bottom line.If sellers get hung with too many buy backs they'll get tired of hauling them around after awhile,it all takes care of itself.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 12:17pm


Did you pay too much or PAY to SOON.

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by BennyLumpkin BennyLumpkin wrote:

I don't want to stir the pot but the auction page is mine. There are two sides to every story. The issue of running bids was brought up and was looked in to but ILGLEANER wasn't happy with the answer. Two guys who know each other bought from each other. It hasn't been relisted. One bought it, the other wanted it for a Christmas gift and when guy #1 listed it on the page guy #2 bid like everyone else and bought it. I've repeatedly said this but it turned in to me and my page being bashed all over the net. I keep a clean page and I do my best along with my admins to keep it on the up and up. We have in the past caught a few buddy bidders doing wrong and they're gone. I don't tolerate it. But all parties were talked to and the issue was dropped...At least on my end. Again I don't want to stir the pot but I wanted my side to be out there too.
You want to stir it then lets stir it.   There were to guys coming to Illinois to drop off some pedal tractors in Greenville, Then going up to Nokomis to Kurt Aumans to pick up Pedal combines from him, then meeting a guy in Effingham the next day.  They combine they picked up together, was put on your site and sold,while they were here in Illinois. They were stopping by my place but didnt have time , I talked to them.  And the pedal combine sells by one , and the other trumps every bid and got it.    Like I said in the begining, I had nothing in it, but I saw what was going on.  He said he would look into it and get back to me, Well I got back to him, said talked to the other administrators and there was no wrong doing. Fine what ever  its your show, but I will for sure have everything I sell on there protected by someone else.   End of story, until he decided there was to much chit chat and deleted my posts, Then it was on. I have talked to alot of people, and they have told me what buddy bids for the other buddy. And you know what they have told me the truth.   Happy New Year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Motrack
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 5:51pm
Why all the butt hurt about item you were not even bidding on? We talked to both the seller and buyer about that auction and it was legit. The buyer purchased item for his nephew and I saw pic of it under the Christmas tree.
Both the buyer and seller are friends and were traveling together when this auction was happening but the buyer did win the item fair and square. You cite the fact they were traveling together as proof of wrong doing with no other proof to back up your claims.

No one called you a lier and the reason you were removed from the page is the tone and context of your PMs and comments. Maybe we should post those PMs here so everyone can see what really transpired.


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 6:14pm
See I don't get it...You're getting all wound up and bashing me all over the net trying to prove a point that is moot. You've slandered me as has your kid. Austin is no longer there on my page because of his attitude and his mouth. It had nothing to do with this issue. You repeatedly asked me about this and I as well as Motrack looked in to it... Repeatedly with the same results yet you still scream foul play. I've had enough. It was time people see both sides of this sorry. I'm not the bad guy. I run a clean page over there and I'll keep it that way. You're currently still on it but keep it up and I'll let the admins do what they've been wanting to do. It's not just me over there. It's a group effort.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 6:57pm
Several years ago I put a tractor on e-bay for $1500. for a week. After 5 days , no bids. A guy sends me an e-mail and says he will pay $1200. if I put a "buy it now" so he can purchase and pickup in 2 days... I say OK and the deal is done.. Next day I get an e-mail from a second guy who is IRATE,  screaming and cussing me for "selling the tractor out from under him"  ???  He wanted to bid on the 7th day at the last hour and I ruined his plan. He thought I OWED him the tractor  !! .......... I STILL don't get it ???

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Austin IL
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:06pm
Ben Lumpy you are an absolute weirdo. It's a freaking Facebook group. You're not running a business or any kind of a profitable organization. Little kids have and run Facebook pages, so quit acting like a big shot. You act Like you have a job to run" a Facebook page. I understand you feel like you have power over other people, and that's probably something you don't have in your real life. It's filling a void in your life.


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:17pm
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Several years ago I put a tractor on e-bay for $1500. for a week. After 5 days , no bids. A guy sends me an e-mail and says he will pay $1200. if I put a "buy it now" so he can purchase and pickup in 2 days... I say OK and the deal is done.. Next day I get an e-mail from a second guy who is IRATE,  screaming and cussing me for "selling the tractor out from under him"  ???  He wanted to bid on the 7th day at the last hour and I ruined his plan. He thought I OWED him the tractor  !! .......... I STILL don't get it ???


I think a lot of folks seem to think auctions are held so they can get bargains and I like a bargain as good as anyone.But I assume auctions are held by the seller so they can get the most $$$ for whatever they are trying to sell.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by Motrack Motrack wrote:

Why all the butt hurt about item you were not even bidding on? We talked to both the seller and buyer about that auction and it was legit. The buyer purchased item for his nephew and I saw pic of it under the Christmas tree.
Both the buyer and seller are friends and were traveling together when this auction was happening but the buyer did win the item fair and square. You cite the fact they were traveling together as proof of wrong doing with no other proof to back up your claims.

No one called you a lier and the reason you were removed from the page is the tone and context of your PMs and comments. Maybe we should post those PMs here so everyone can see what really transpired.
Please do post the PMs and I was not removed from the page. So you should know what your talking about before you post something on here.



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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Austin IL
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:32pm
He probably lost track of which page.... It's a full time job "administrating" all those Facebook groups and pages. I mean, I honestly don't know how guys do it. LOL!!!


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 7:58pm


I am going for a bowl of ice cream and chips .

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:01pm
BEER SUMMIT ????????

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:



I am going for a bowl of ice cream and chips .



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Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne


Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:21pm
I was high and only bidder on a d17 brochure on the auction page and the seller didn't think it brought enough so he wasn't going to sell it to me. I wasn't out anything so I let it go. The auction site is by far a perfect site, and I don't think it matters how much attention someone gave it it's not going to fix it. Why not just let nature take its course and not get all uptight about it thinking your running a tight ship. The admins come off as quite rude to the honest people.. reminds me of our government. I'm glad there's a new site because I was getting tired of seeing all the Massey and Oliver stuff on my newsfeed anyways.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:47pm
Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:



I am going for a bowl of ice cream and chips .
bring me some butter pecan !!!!



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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Mike Plotner
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2016 at 8:53pm
I bought my D-19 off there, worked out really well for me. Seller was easy to get along with too. I just don't like seeing all the Massey and Oliver stuff. Hate to waste time seeing a notification for another 1/16th 1650 Oliver. But there are some good finds on there occasionally

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2001 Gleaner R42, 1978 7060, 1977 7000, 1966 190 XT, 1966 D-17 Series IV and 1952 WD and more keep my farm running!


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 5:43am
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Several years ago I put a tractor on e-bay for $1500. for a week. After 5 days , no bids. A guy sends me an e-mail and says he will pay $1200. if I put a "buy it now" so he can purchase and pickup in 2 days... I say OK and the deal is done.. Next day I get an e-mail from a second guy who is IRATE,  screaming and cussing me for "selling the tractor out from under him"  ???  He wanted to bid on the 7th day at the last hour and I ruined his plan. He thought I OWED him the tractor  !! .......... I STILL don't get it ???

I get it. If you posted an item for auction for 7 days at a certain price, then leave it up. I typically bid at the last day also. Early bids tend to run the price up quicker.


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 7:23am
Early bids tend to run the price up quicker
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-I thought that was my GOAL ?  If I wanted to give it away I would put $500. and list it for 24 hours ?

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 7:25am
Can someone post a link to the Facebook page?

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1957 WD45 dad's first AC

1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 7:39am
Every site has their rules, the way they set it up and you need to read the fine print. I no longer buy on e-pay and figured I should start staying off sites where information is "shared".
Forget it as once you use any of them, the genie is out of the bottle and they can do anything they want.
After seeing a 180 and a 185 on a name brand auction site I have never used I took a chance and bid on both figuring I just might get lucky and get one of them as they were within decent hauling distance for me.
The 180 closed first and my phone was ringing off the hook with the auction company "telling me" I needed to re-bid or I would lose the tractor. The wording they used was actually comical and it proves the point about just how degrading folks can be when they are hiding behind a phone and "selling".
Can't say I'll never use that site again but there is what I feel is a very young man that is still using "butt salve" after our last discussion.
End result, I ended up with a "peach" for a 185 that I am pleased with, waited a long time for and picked up far below any others I have seen listed for years (for the cost of the new rubber on it).
Guess you have to be either in, or out like any auction.


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 7:50am
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Early bids tend to run the price up quicker
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-I thought that was my GOAL ?  If I wanted to give it away I would put $500. and list it for 24 hours ?

Yes as a seller. AS a buyer, no! two different goals.

As a seller if you thought 1200 was a good price, then why not list it for 1200 and see if the bid goes up more. If it sells as 1200 then that is OK also.

You are right, as a seller you want to get the most you can.


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 7:54am
Originally posted by Charlie175 Charlie175 wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Several years ago I put a tractor on e-bay for $1500. for a week. After 5 days , no bids. A guy sends me an e-mail and says he will pay $1200. if I put a "buy it now" so he can purchase and pickup in 2 days... I say OK and the deal is done.. Next day I get an e-mail from a second guy who is IRATE,  screaming and cussing me for "selling the tractor out from under him"  ???  He wanted to bid on the 7th day at the last hour and I ruined his plan. He thought I OWED him the tractor  !! .......... I STILL don't get it ???

I get it. If you posted an item for auction for 7 days at a certain price, then leave it up. I typically bid at the last day also. Early bids tend to run the price up quicker.


If its an item you want you need to put in some kind of bid early as its easier for the seller to take the item off ebay if it doesn't have any bids.I usually hit a couple low ball bids early on and then bid my maximum in the last 7 or 8 seconds of the auction so other bidderss don't have time to rebid.


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 9:00am
I think they have a program/website that will do that style of bidding for you.

I generally put my max amount in as leave it as is. 


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:40am
Originally posted by TimNearFortWorth TimNearFortWorth wrote:

Every site has their rules, the way they set it up and you need to read the fine print. I no longer buy on e-pay and figured I should start staying off sites where information is "shared".
Forget it as once you use any of them, the genie is out of the bottle and they can do anything they want.
After seeing a 180 and a 185 on a name brand auction site I have never used I took a chance and bid on both figuring I just might get lucky and get one of them as they were within decent hauling distance for me.
The 180 closed first and my phone was ringing off the hook with the auction company "telling me" I needed to re-bid or I would lose the tractor. The wording they used was actually comical and it proves the point about just how degrading folks can be when they are hiding behind a phone and "selling".
Can't say I'll never use that site again but there is what I feel is a very young man that is still using "butt salve" after our last discussion.
End result, I ended up with a "peach" for a 185 that I am pleased with, waited a long time for and picked up far below any others I have seen listed for years (for the cost of the new rubber on it).
Guess you have to be either in, or out like any auction.


I'm guessing that was on Auctiontime....they were trying to call me when I was bidding on a tractor a couple of weeks ago. I just let the calls go to voicemail, but it irritated me a little. I was watching the live feed yesterday and following some of the green stuff to see how the bidding took off at the end. I know they tack on time if they get a bid in the last minute, but on some of the popular items they actually added 20 seconds or more a number of times with no bidding! If I had the top bid I would be a bit upset by that! I have a feeling they have monitors watch the popular items and tack on extra seconds to help run up the bid. On one item, the clock had run out for at least two seconds and more time suddenly popped up along with a new bid. I guess, like all auctions you need to set your limit and guard against the head games they play....

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ALLIS EXPRESS!
This year:


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:57am
Figured someone would figure out who that was and you nailed it Eldon. Yes, seen the clock getting goofy on that site as well.
The irony with this one is when I went up to OK and picked up the 185, the 180 was still there and the seller advised the winning bidder was from Canada and backed out after getting a couple of shipping quotes. Seller said something about not being allowed to re-list it on the site when that happened and tried his darndest to get me to take the 180 for any price.
Had another fella tell me about questioning another on-line site where they "moved" the clock on the live closing in the last minutes. Said they told him it must have been his internet connection acting up as they did not do that . . . .
Buyer beware.


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 11:08am
If they allowed them to re-list their items we would see just how much shill bidding is going on!! Best is to set your price and stick with it....I wound up with my tractor $10,000 less than what it was listed on Tractorhouse when I talked to the dealer 2 months ago, so I was happy.

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ALLIS EXPRESS!
This year:


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:38pm
I don't understand Austin's beef with my page. We have simple rules we ask to do to keep the page running. Basically no reserve but put a reasonable starting price that is a minimum of what you'd take. We try to not let people put huge starting prices because it's basically a for sale as, not an auction and defeats the purpose. List a payment type and of there is shipping and cost. Auction ends 24 hours after last bid which is pretty nor!also across all the auction pages. We try to keep chit chat to a minimum to not clog up posts and keep bids from being missed . That's what started all this. I cleaned up a post and he got pissed his posts were deleted. He kept bitching and I asked him to drop it and he decided to be a dick and mock me so I booted him. It would have been a cool off period and I'd have let him back in which we do fairly often but he decided to send me nasty PM's and bash me here. We've had everything from manuals to 2 different D21's sell with minimal issues until this all happened. No one is being forced to be on my site or participate in it. If folks don't like it, dont join. This is getting old.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: Austin IL
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 12:00am
You are forgetting to mention your buddy Larry Wilson kicked me off the actual allis page because of something I said on a completely different page. I didn't break a single rule on the page, and I can't get a response from uncle Larry as to why I was booted. As for the Ben Lumpy auction page, like I told him, I could care less about that page. I rarely visited the page anyways. It's just BS Larry did what he did and now is being a coward and hiding.


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 9:47am
I have no control over what Larry does on his page. Take it up with him.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: Austin IL
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 9:53am
I would LOVE to take it up with him!!!!!! He's your buddy, tell him Austin would like to " take it up with him".


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 10:38am
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Several years ago I put a tractor on e-bay for $1500. for a week. After 5 days , no bids. A guy sends me an e-mail and says he will pay $1200. if I put a "buy it now" so he can purchase and pickup in 2 days... I say OK and the deal is done.. Next day I get an e-mail from a second guy who is IRATE,  screaming and cussing me for "selling the tractor out from under him"  ???  He wanted to bid on the 7th day at the last hour and I ruined his plan. He thought I OWED him the tractor  !! .......... I STILL don't get it ???


Had almost the same exact thing happen to me on a private sale. Had a fairly high dollar tractor advertised for a very fair price and guy came and looked and kicked the tires, hem hawd around and tried to get me to lower the price. When i would not he said he wanted to think about it. I told him before he left that I  would call him if somebody else got interested (exact words)  While first guy was  sitting on his hands waiting on me to lower my price another interested party who knew the tractor contacts me and asks if the tractor is still for sale and how firm is your price? I said the tractor is still for sale and price is firm . I also told him that another is other interested party.   He says I will take it , how do you want he funds?   So the tractor was sold to the second guy and to this day (as far as I know) the guy who cam and looked and passed on it thinks I am a no good SOB for selling the tractor out from under him  because somehow he had first right of refusal on MY TRACTOR just because I told him I would let him know if somebody else was looking.   I am with you Steve, I dont get it??


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 10:44am


Pizza ,get ur pizza while its HOT !!!!!!!.

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:



Pizza ,get ur pizza while its HOT !!!!!!!.

ClapClapClapClapClapClapClapClap


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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Motrack Motrack wrote:

Why all the butt hurt about item you were not even bidding on? We talked to both the seller and buyer about that auction and it was legit. The buyer purchased item for his nephew and I saw pic of it under the Christmas tree.
Both the buyer and seller are friends and were traveling together when this auction was happening but the buyer did win the item fair and square. You cite the fact they were traveling together as proof of wrong doing with no other proof to back up your claims.

No one called you a lier and the reason you were removed from the page is the tone and context of your PMs and comments. Maybe we should post those PMs here so everyone can see what really transpired.
 Still waiting on my PMs ........


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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 5:48pm
I'm still waiting on a link to that page.

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1957 WD45 dad's first AC

1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 6:20pm
Originally posted by Stan IL&TN Stan IL&TN wrote:

I'm still waiting on a link to that page.


Join Face Book ,you will find it .

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 8:07pm
I'm still waitin on my pizza . . . .


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 8:30pm


Gleaner was bringing them to u Tim and his Chevy broke down .

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He who dies with the most toys is,
nonetheless ,still dead.
If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED.


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 10:07pm
This might be the page everyone is talking about. Right now it has 4420 members.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/731076290325441/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/groups/731076290325441/?fref=nf
I personally have not done business on this page yet, not sure when or if I will.


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www.awtractor.com
A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287
KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:



Gleaner was bringing them to u Tim and his Chevy broke down .



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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by Butch(OH) Butch(OH) wrote:

Had almost the same exact thing happen to me on a private sale. Had a fairly high dollar tractor advertised for a very fair price and guy came and looked and kicked the tires, hem hawd around and tried to get me to lower the price. When i would not he said he wanted to think about it. I told him before he left that I  would call him if somebody else got interested (exact words)  While first guy was  sitting on his hands waiting on me to lower my price another interested party who knew the tractor contacts me and asks if the tractor is still for sale and how firm is your price? I said the tractor is still for sale and price is firm . I also told him that another is other interested party.   He says I will take it , how do you want he funds?   So the tractor was sold to the second guy and to this day (as far as I know) the guy who cam and looked and passed on it thinks I am a no good SOB for selling the tractor out from under him  because somehow he had first right of refusal on MY TRACTOR just because I told him I would let him know if somebody else was looking.   I am with you Steve, I dont get it??
Didn't have this happen, but KIND of........
Guy had something for sale.  I said "I'd take it.....want me to send you a check?"  His answer; "Naw, bring the money when you come to get it."......so a couple weeks later, which I told him it would be, I go to get it and low and behold, he sold it!  FOR LESS than I told him I'd give him.  NOW, I really didn't give a rat's arse, but he HAS my phone #.....least he could have done was called me....

Then there's the guys......like me......who just plain forget some things.....(yup Kenny)....and things get away.  That's an .........aw heck moment....... we all forget.... LOL LOL LOL......Cry Cry
I guess a guy should write stuff down.....I ALREADY DO......Now, where'd I put that piece of paper???  Embarrassed Big smile Embarrassed


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"Allis-Express"
19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 2:14pm
tedj if your like us its on the dash on all the trucks we drive hahaha

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2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 8:24pm
Ted, after waiting 2 weeks you should have called to check before you drove off.... I see your point, but lots of guys say " I will take it" and never show up. ... First guy with the money normally gets it... unless someone calls and says " I will be there tomorrow at 0900" , then I would not sell to someone the night before, but take his number.

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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2017 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by Alex09(WI) Alex09(WI) wrote:

This might be the page everyone is talking about. Right now it has 4420 members.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/731076290325441/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/groups/731076290325441/?fref=nf
I personally have not done business on this page yet, not sure when or if I will.




Thanks Alex!!!

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1957 WD45 dad's first AC

1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson


Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 11:43am
I am still waiting for a guy to show up for his stuff he bought never sent the money, called or would answer his phone said he would be there by the week end never  saw or heard from him  So I resold it and to this day i have no clue where he went to.


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 12:30pm
I am still waiting on a guy to pickup a corn picker he paid for 2 or 3 years ago.


Posted By: PickinNick
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 1:36pm
what was it or is it?


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 8:45am
This is the Nazi page being referred to on this post. 

http://www.facebook.com/groups/731076290325441/" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/groups/731076290325441/

If you don't want to deal with drama, getting banned for no reason, moderators selectively enforcing or not enforcing their rules, (it's very obvious that this happens,) replies getting deleted for too much "chit chat" etc. join this one

http://www.facebook.com/groups/350727145310542/" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/groups/350727145310542/



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