Two Way, Rollover or "spinner" plow
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Topic: Two Way, Rollover or "spinner" plow
Posted By: WNYBill
Subject: Two Way, Rollover or "spinner" plow
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 7:58am
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I have been through the AC Plow Book and find reference to the "2 way" M-60-70 and 80, but no good diagrams of the whole thing. My understand is that they made them in 3 pt. as well a snap coupling. They were made in one, two and three bottoms with 14 and 16 inch bottoms. They were pretty simple. Did they work? Anybody got one? Anybody used one? Anybody got pictures? Anybody seen one for sale? Is there a dedicated Owners Manual for this plow? I understand the the IH Rollover plow is the only one that works well, but I got an orange tractor and too much time. Bill "jumping over dollars bills to save small change"
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 8:34am
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Here is my #54 two way plow. http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/7_zpsqeq7hi5x.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/1_zpswd9oxxyu.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/4_zpsim0jwwiv.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/3_zpsmgkflia9.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> 
http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/6_zpsyd3ounvx.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/9_zpszbi60qvk.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Plow works very well. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 9:00am
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In the plow frames parts book, hitches are separate from plow frames.At least three different snap coupler hitches for different time periods and variations for later D series tractors plus 1 and 3 point hitches. All the hitches bolt to the same plow frames. Then there are additions to roll the two way plows over by hydraulic power. Gerald J. |
Posted By: mruhlig77
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 10:53am
Posted By: mruhlig77
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 10:53am
| Where do you find the left handed parts?? |
Posted By: WNYBill
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 10:58am
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Dennis, thank you for the pictures. I see now about it being simple. You call it a #54, in the Plow Book they talk about 60, 70 and 80 series, what does the #54 mean? I am going back to the Book and, hopefully, it will make more sense. Do you ever see them for sale? Is there a dedicated Owners Manual? Bill
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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 2:05pm
| There is a owners manual for them. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 2:21pm
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There is much information on plow family numbers over in the Knowledge Base in AC Plows Parts 101.The 50 family I think predates the 60, 70, and 80 groupings that were contemporary, then the 9000 came along then the 2000, and 3000. Basically the frames of the 50 family plows (51 for 1 bottom, 52 for 2 bottoms, etc) had vertical shanks for the plow bottoms. 60, 70, and 80 had sloping shanks. 60 and 70 shanks came with shear bolt mounts when the plow bottoms hit boulders. 80 had spring trip shanks from the factory. The parts book shows retrofit kits to put the spring trips on the 60 and 70 frames. 60 frames were single width frames, so different parts for 12, 14, and 16" bottoms. 70 and 80 were adjustable width frames so could be 14 or 16" bottoms with only some reassembly using different bolt holes in the cross members. There are more parts in the 70/80 frames than the 60 frames, but the adjustable width allowed Allis to inventory the same parts for two bottoms widths and so have a simpler warehouse and manufacturing schedule. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 3:00pm
| I doubt you will ever find anyone making you left handed Allis plow parts. So I wouldn't get one for serious plowing. It's hard enough to find right hand Allis plow parts. I think you'd be stuck searching for NOS or used left hand parts or adapting something from another color. |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 3:01pm
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For LH plow parts it all depend on what bottoms you have. Next to nothing is made new anymore so, it come's down to where you can find NOS parts. I have a very limited supply of some parts for the 124 bottoms.
------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 4:20pm
The #50 is the model of the plow frame. The #4 is how many bottoms mounted on the frame. So a model 50 with 3 bottom would be a #53. The #54 was the only 50 series plow that had 4 bottoms. The 50 series of plows where made before the 60,70 & 80 series. They do come up for sale just not very often. Allis made manuals for every piece of equipment they made you just need to find it. http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/54%20two%20way%20plow/54%20plow_zpsew4kmhcf.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
WNYBill wrote:Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 7:44pm
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My stash of sc plows... http://s29.photobucket.com/user/ejons/media/001_zpsglqkoax8.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 8:12pm
| Eldon would admit to a plow fetish? Or is it darker than that? |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 8:20pm
Got a plow fetish, mower fetish, weights fetish....175D tractor fetish LOL! ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 8:25pm
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Eldon has an AC fetish! Not a bad thing by any means. Allis made 3 point spinner plows with at least 5 bottoms, perhaps more. I quit bidding on a 5 bottom at a sale that went for $800. It was in pretty good shape but would need rebuilding in a few years and parts are getting hard to find. I have three AC spinner plows, a SC two bottom, a 3 bottom 3point and a 4 bottom 3 point. I have yet to find new mowboards for any of them but shins and shears are still available, I think they may fit some other brand too. I'm considering changing the best of the two 3 point's to IHC mowboards as they are readily available, both left and right, as a lot of farmers in the west still plow their irrigated ground. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 9:00pm
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Dennis, It looks like you are coupled to the CA using the snap couple hitch. However you have the plow pinned to the rear lift arms. Not a good combination!!. Either use latches on the lift arms or add a chain to the plow hitch at the snap couple to hold the hitch in case the latch opens. A very dangerous arrangement. Bob ------------- 4 B's, 1 C's,3 CA's, 2 G's WD, D14, D15, B-1, B10, B12, 712S, |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2016 at 10:49pm
Thanks for your concern. No chains are needed. Have inspected snap-coupler components and all are in good working order. I will however switch the lift links over to the correct ones for the snap-coupler system as soon as they come available. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |